What speakers for 10k?

Yeah, Toddnkaya is right. What Vapor offers are built-to-order speakers for the most part (occasionally you may find pairs that were built to be used at shows). And that gives you the opportunity to customize them in some way if you so choose (exotic, expensive capacitors, different finishes etc). But if waiting is a no-go for you, your Vapor options will likely be quite limited.

For me, I'm willing to wait for an end game speaker, whether that means enduring a long build time, or waiting for a used pair of speakers I am interesed in to come up for sale used at a price I can afford.

The new KEF Reference 3 looks interesting and promising. Why not PMC Fact 8 or twenty.26? Try to audition these at a dealer and see if you like them.

Yeah maybe you're right about the wait, I'm in no big hurry anyway. how do the breeze or the stiff breeze do with music like tool nine inch nails avenged sevenfold? I would think the stiff breeze would handle that type of music better than the breeze would?

With your huge 15inch sub , I would think both can handle that type of music. You do want to be careful not to tear the ribbon though.

Really you think the breeze will handle that type of music ok? because I can get the breeze right now, not in the color I would like but it could give me a good idea of the sound they produce, and then I could get what im really eyeballing, the nimbus. But yeah you're right custom speakers and stands are worth the wait.