2-channel pre-amp and dedicated processor?


My small home does not allow me to keep my 2-channel analog system physically separate from "HT" digital needs. So, I want your opinion on a configuration:

use existing 2-channel system (separate pre-amp and amp)for analog sources, but connect the pre-amp's tape or aux to a surround sound processor, This will be for the left and right fronts for HT. From the processor, connect to a 3-channel amp for the left & right rears and center: for HT.

2 issues:

1. I have an excellent Class A 1980s pre-amp with a phono stage, but without unity gain or pass-through. I don't know if the tape or aux loop will work in the way I want it to

2. is there a dedicated surround processor out there? I don't need a pre-amp built in (if issue #1 becomes a non-issue)

I think my configuration idea will work, but I need your advice, and suggestions for a processor.

Thanks

J.
jpaik
Hmmmm... You have a similar set-up to one I had several years ago with the exception that I had pre-outs and main-ins on my preamp. With your current preamp you have no pass through which pretty much means you have to put the procesor in the loop prior to routing to the preamp. This shouldn't be an issue as almost all stand-alone processors I am aware of have a bypass mode which shouldn't degrade your signal going to the preamp. In this configuration you'd have all channels route to the processor from your DVD player and the the main L&R going from the processor to your preamp. The only problem with this, which others have mentioned, is having to keep your volume control on your preamp turned up when doing HT to match the other channels (the master volume at this point being controlled by the processor).
A second option would be to get an input selector box and put it between the DVD player and the processor (I believe Niles audio makes one of these). It would require 2 sets of IC's for the main channels, one routed directly to the processor and the other routed directly to your preamp. In this configuration you would have the normal pair of IC's from the main L&R channels of the DVD player to the Niles box which would have two sets of L&R outs. One set goes directly to the processor and the other to the preamp. When you want HT, select "Output 1" on the Niles box and when you want music (controlled by you preamp), use "Output 2". You will have to look harder for one of these as a device like this is more commonly found where you have multiple inputs with one output than the other way around as I am proposing. That said, it should work, be fairly inexpensive and provide a clean signal path.
A third option, which I'm not sure you want to consider, is to get a DVD player with internal processing. This would be easier to wire as all of your IC's would route directly to amplifiers with the exception of the mail L&R's which would go to the preamp. The problem here would be to find a DVD player with a variable level output for all the channels - in effect using the DVD player as the processor AND preamp. This would be a pain however and you'd probably have to tweak those variable outputs all the time!
All in all, I would recommend the 2nd option I presented. You may want to check out this link for Niles Audio. If they don't make it, there should be some manufacturer that does. This may do the trick for you. http://www.nilesaudio.com/products/source_switching.html
Good luck no matter what you decide! - Tony
Radio Shack makes an Audio Selector box model # 42-2112, 1/5 the price of a Niles' box. It has 3 ins and 1 out, but because it is passive, you can also use it backwards.
Did you solve this problem? I just upgraded to a very good integrated and also have a small room. I also bought a Pioneer DV-47Ai, which a universal player incl. SACD and DVD-A. I want to sample these media, esp. for music (over 80%). I have old speakers which would work well as rear channels and a new 10" sub.

I am considering purchasing a unit on audiogon @ http://rgonshow.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/shm.pl?vantas&1061395057&item&Artech. (www.artech-electronics.com/)

The only issue for me is that I don't need the amps contained therein, since I have several working mid/hi end old amps, although the unit may sound better since it's newer. My older amps are halfler xl 280 stock, gas son of ampzilla basic mod by gasworks, citation 12 stock and old dyna st 70, needs work probably.

Hope this helps. Any suggestions for me. I don't want to spend over $500 to 600, used is OK.
Additional comment and correction...could the Vantas solve the problem? If so, is there something like it without the amplifiers? Or am I better off selling the old amps and using the 3 in the Vantas? Any advice?
Jpaik,

The cleanest and cheapest solution to your set-up is to get a line level A/B switch-although that adds another thing in your signal chain. Not ideal but it will solve your problem. Get a high quality line-level A/B switch.

Your pre-amp goes to input A of the A/B switch and your HT pre/processor would go to Input B of the same A/B switch. The output of the switch then goes to your power amps.

When listening to Stereo, you are in Input A. Home Theater you would use Input B.

That means you maintain the crucial channel balancing between all your Home Theater channels.

You know what they say: In Stereo, we have two problems. In Home Theater, we have 5.1/6.1/7.1 problems.

Hope you solve your dilemna.

Enjoy your music!