Good musical speakers that go low? Help


I am looking for a good muscial speaker (4k or so used) that really does good deep base, but in a controled manner.

I have a fairly powerful SS amp (kraft) so current should not be an issue.

Oh and to make things even more difficult I have a wife which means the speaker can not bee over 50 inches or so. No super towers here.

Must a go with a sub?

Ken
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Fostex f200a ,30hz 21khz very detailed bass with no bloom wonderful sound across the range due to advanced cone ,milled basket[not cast or stamped like the other loudspeakers mentioned]a true hiquality driver available in a few loudspeakers or DIY your own.It also features a milled alnico maginet instead of the cheap pressed powder mags the others use. http://www.audiocraftersguld.com/Xtreme/xtreme.htm
Look for Vienna Strauss or Mahlers, these have amazing bass impact, especially the Mahlers with the dual 11" Eton honeycomb woofers which are some of the best bass drivers made, and are really truly underrated speakers. I had Mahlers, sold them, and now have bought another pair because I missed them. There is a pair of black Strauss I almost bought on Agon right now for $3300. The Mahler/Strauss have awesome furniture grade finishes, so the wife issue sould be less of an obstacle. The rosewood in particular is very nice, and is what I have repurchased.
Regarding the above post about Vienna Acoustics Mahlers and their bass performance, I have Mahlers in my second system and really love the speakers, but it is incorrect to say that they excel at the reproduction of deep bass (40 Hz. and below). In fact, they begin to roll off below 40 Hz. and are down a good 12-13 db. at 25 Hz. according to Atkinson's measurements. In my room, they are likewise down a good 12 db. at 20 Hz.

The Mahlers have very impactful, powerful midbass (40 Hz. to 80 Hz.) that makes them sound very compelling in large rooms (and makes them sound like hell in most smaller rooms), but if it is deep bass you want, I suggest you look elsewhere. In any event, speakers that do deep bass tend to be hard to place properly and often end up sounding lousy as a result (for example, my Salons were never right in the bass at our old apartment).

PS - The Eton woofers are ten-inch, not eleven-inch.
I would think of vandersteen 3 with the sub. I think that is about the best sound you can get for the money. And then you are naturally bi apming the low frequencys and the highs. I think there is a major advanage to not running big bass out of your main amp. Also you can optomise the base by tuning it seprate from the rest of the speaker and placing the sub in the sweet spot for the room, this really helps if you have a room that is not perfect for audio it really lets you tune the speakers which is just as important as the speaker itself. I have 2ce sig with the sub and I think they are grate and one of the most netural for the money.
Raquel,

I disagree, in my smaller room with the setup I mentioned the midbass was not overcooked, so setup as always is the key. Also as far as deep bass, the Mahlers do quite well on organ music, and pick up much deeper bass than the Von Schweikert VR4 jr's I have used in the same room, which claim to extend into the 25hz region, and several magazines have mentioned this if this is criteria used. Rolloff at 40hz? I don't think so, maybe if you electronics can't produce it. I believe what I hear, not what magazines print. The Eton drivers are excellent pieces used in many high end designs that definitely do not roll off deep bass, their resonant frequency is 21hz with a -3db point of 25hz for the raw drivers. The port on the Mahlers is tuned in the 26 hz range from my research, which would also indicate strong output down to this frequency rolling off quickly 3db below this. Also if you do some research, Eton is a german company, the drivers are measured in metric units and they are closer to 11" than 10".