Classdaudio vs Channel Islands amps


I was wondering if anyone has heard any models from both Classdaudio and Channel Island amps. I searched the threads, but I couldn't find a comparison. I want to know how the two brands compare in terms of sound, durability, and build quality. I know that Classdaudio builds their own circuit board while Channel Islands use Hypex. I would appreciate any information.
izora
Hi Izora, have you confirmed with the manufacturer that D-Sonic amps are assembled in China? Even if they were, the underlying Pascal or AbleTech power conversion modules come from Northern European companies.

There are a number of manufacturers of new generation class D amps.... Prices range from below $1K to over $50K... So giving an open ended suggestion is a little difficult.

Regards, G.
Guidocorona,
Actually, I read on a forum that the amps are made in China. I should have made sure instead of making assumptions. Anyway, I just called D-Sonic, and I was told that they are made in Texas... yay!

I'll definitely look into D-Sonic, but I'm still seriously considering the Class D Audio amp since it's half the price of D-Sonic.
Izora...have no reservations about the very high build quality of the Abletec amps manufactured in China. I'm not sure about Pascal but the very low priced D-Sonic amps with the Pascal modules would indicate thats the case since all the D-Sonic amps are very low priced. The following companies manufacture most of their high end products in China. Cambridge Audio. Musical Fidelity. KEF Speakers. B&W Speakers. Polk Audio. Prima Luna. Cayin. Vincent Audio. Just to name a few of a longer list I could provide. The D-Sonic M3 1200S stereo amp and their M3 600M mono amp use the Abletec ALC 1000 mono block amps designed by Patrik Bostrom of Sweden with Anaview AB, which he sold to Abletec in early 2010 and became their Chief Technical Officer. Abletec was acquired earlier this year by the Etal Group in Sweden that have branches all over the world including Hong Kong. Patrik Bostrom is recognized in the high tech world as a Class D wizard throughout Europe and is one of the most brilliant leaders today in the advancement of Class D technical engineering and the recent patents he retains on his innovative Class D designs. You will not find a better Class D amp anywhere today in the price range of the D-Sonic amps with the Abletec phase shifting modulation modules, which is better than pulse width modulation which has been common in Class D-amps for many years.
Audiozen,
It doesn't bother me too much that the Abletec amps are made in China since D-Sonic assembles the amps in the U.S. Hopefully quality control isn't an issue.

Which D-Sonic amps are Abletec and which are Pascal? I'm interested in the M3-800S. What are the differences between the two? You seem to know a lot about class D amps.

I'm still very tempted to purchase a Class D Audio amp. I wish I can compare these amps side by side. Unless I hear a significant difference, it wouldn't be worth it for me to purchase the D-Sonic at double the price of Class D Audio.
Izora..Dennis will not answer questions regarding which amps he uses in his models. I have spent well over two hours of phone conversations with Dennis during the past eight months. I find it very hard to believe they are assembled in the U.S. The amps are OEM products and I suspect they are unpackaged from large shipping cartons off pallet boards from China and are re-packaged into single carton's in Texas. You will not find in print on the back of any D-Sonic amp "Made in the USA". Regarding Pascal of Denmark that has been in business since 2006. They also have a new Class D technology called UMAC Class D that is a patented design. The technical engineer that designs the Pascal amps is Jesper Hansen. Currently, Bruno Putzeys with Ncore, Patrik Bostrom with Abletec, anf Jensen Hansen with Pascal have all designed new Class D technologies that puts these guys out front as the current leaders of the newest Class D technologies on the market.