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Agree or disagree with the following statement.

Trying to get some input on an issue that a few of us are debating.

Statement:

If you have never listened to any particular component, you can't have an opinion on how it sounds.

Answer:

I don't agree with that. Measurements provide a fairly good indication of how something will sound. That's the beauty of science -- it's not necessary to have first hand experience to make reasonable judgments. You likely disagree and that could be a difference in our background and education."

So, the issue at hand is, can tell how a component sounds without listening to it, and just go on specs? Or, do you have to listen to it, as well, because the specs don't tell the whole story?
zd542
mitch2
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If you have never listened to any particular component, you can't have an opinion on how it sounds.
That statement is true. You can have an opinion on how you believe the component will sound but, if you haven't heard it, you cannot speak to the actual sound.
zd542 OP
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"That statement is true. You can have an opinion on how you believe the component will sound but, if you haven't heard it, you cannot speak to the actual sound."

I think there may have been a little confusion regarding that quote. I believe that some people took it as an arrogant or know it all statement, telling people that you can't have an opinion. That's not the case at all. Its a very specific comment, and in your quote above, you explain it exactly as how I meant it.
wolf_garcia
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The only value of the Tice Clock was timekeeping. And I did get to "hear" one at the late Lars Friedell's (possible spelling error alert) house (yes, THAT Lars) as he was a neighbor in CT. It is still my fave imaginary magical tweak and did sort of smell like roses...or maybe that was just Lars.
zd542 OP
5,339 posts
 
Are you sure it wasn't a fake? It did look exactly like a radio shack clock.
martykl
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Ironic that the Tice Clock came up in this thread. I've never heard one but would have expressed an opinion on the product if asked. It's a product that begs to be summarily dismissed and that's what I'd have done instinctively. I bet a lot of other folks here share that opinion of the Clock despite never having heard one.

However, after this thread, I can no longer in good conscience state that the Clock is exhibit A in high-end lunacy, a heap of fraudulent BS demonstrating the incredible capacity of audiophiles to be suckered by ANYTHING, and the distilled essence of hucksterism at its absolute worst. In fairness, I can now only say that I'm "extremely sceptical" of the Clock's claimed benefits. Damn, this thread is making life less fun already.
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