A decent preamp to complete my setup?


Hey everyone! I'm absolutely new to the hobby and am coming along with a turntable setup and have everything besides my preamp. So far I have a Technics sl-1200mkd3 turntable, two svs ultra bookshelf speakers, and a NuForce STA200 160 watt amp. I'm loving the setup so far because apparently the NuForce will do well with the SVS speakers, but I've been cautioned to use a preamp that has as low gain as possible since apparently the NuForce has a lot already (I admit I'm not too sure if this is a big deal or even much of an issue, but initially it makes sense). I've heard somewhere in the 2-3db region is great, but have no idea where to look for something like that. My budget is $300-$350 so I'm hoping that's enough to get something decent, do you guys have any suggestions? I don't want any bells or whistles like streaming, DAC, etc. Just a good preamp with volume control that's simple to run from my turntable to my amp. If the perfect piece of equipment for me is a little outside of my range I suppose I'd have no problem saving up a bit more to get it, but I'm hoping something that gives me the bare bones I'm looking for will be decently in my range.
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One could use a separate phonostge into a Schiit SYS passive into the STA200. Passive and Phonostage could easily be had for $300 (SYS=$50).

I own the SYS and the STA 200. The STA200 delivers full power with 0.65 volt input. 
I agree that the Mani is considered a high quality budget phonostage and would be a good choice. It is very flexible regarding cartridge gain loading. The 4 gain settings, ranging between 30 and 59dB, would allow use of the Saga in either active or passive mode. Most moving magnet cartridges have a output vo;tage between 3.5 mV, requiring ~49dB gain from phonostage, and 5.5 mV requiring ~ 45dB gain from phonostage to reach 1 volt output. This output is thought to be reasonable to expect from a phonostage without providing noise.  This is more than that required by the STA200 which makes use of a passive with it a viable approach. 

I have no issue with the Saga, and am sure it would be fun to explore it's use as mentioned by soix. My thought was that the Schiit SYS and Mani could both be had for under $200 including shipping. Also if your budget was raised to $500, I wonder what the additional $300 might return sonically if used toward a different phonostage. Increased price doesn't always translate to improvement, however often does. I doubt there is a detectable sonic difference between the SYS and Saga used in passive mode.

Most digital sources provide 2+ volts output therefore the differential volume settings alluded to by lowrider57. This creates the problem balancing loudness levels between the two sources. 
Wow! Just saw millercarbon's post, 2 minutes prior to my post. My primary system budget pretty much equates to his proposed ratio. Given $2500 I would probably spend somewhat more on speakers and amplification and less on the cables/cones, and avoid the consulting fee. :-)

I am sure the husband and wife are very happy with their system. $2500 well spent. 
Forgot to add that I believe the recommendation for the Complete Guide by Harley is 'spot on'. The best single reference for home audio I know of.

Also, Blue Jeans LC-1 interconnects are great for passive use. 12pF/foot. Can be ordered for very short links.