Anyone heard the Alsyvox Botticelli planar speakers?

  dracule1, thanks for sharing info about this speaker. Their website shows a location in Valencia, Spain. I was in Valencia two years ago. If I had known about this speaker, I would have visited their factory. Their website does not show American dealer. Too bad! As a long-time owner of Apogee Duetta II's, I'd love to hear these speakers. 

Come on

94db/w for planar speaker.

It is unbelievable.

I had used Apogee Duetta Signature from 1998 to 1998 driven by Krell KSA 150.

I am interested in this speaker.

There was a report on the speaker recently on The Planar Speaker Asylum Forum.

$87K! Quick, call your broker and sell some stock! Seriously, the newest Carver Line Array for $12K can beat any of these overpriced speakers - dynamic or planar!

I have heard them at RMAF 2018, and they were simply outstanding. Ultra smooth, expansive soundstage and superb dynamics. I kept looking for a subwoofer in the room...lol!!. And yes, $87K is lot of dough but an audition and close inspection of these exquisite speakers may prompt you to sell the stocks or reaching for your checkbook.

PS: Never mind roberjerman, he must have forgotten to take his meds today 😉

Shkong78, are you sure about pricing? 60.9k Euro minus VAT is little over 50k Euro. 

Roberjerman, I get your sarcasm. The Carver ALS is a fantastic speaker and competes with the ultra expensive speakers over $100k I’ve heard. However, I’ve always been a die hard planar speaker fan, especially Apogee.  This is the Apogee speaker that Apogee should or would have built if it were still in business today.  On top of that, the aesthetics are far above any Apogee, imo.  I’ve read several reviews by people who attended audio shows displaying the Botticelli, and all have been totally enthralled by its sound.

Lalitk, I’m kicking myself for not attending RMAF this year. I was so close to going, but decided not to. I’ve yet to hear anything negative about this speaker, other than it’s price. The only planar speakers in this price range are the ML Neolith and Scaena, but both are hybrids and both have integration issues that are no go for me. The Neolith was a big disappointment.

Scorpio1951, I’m an apogee fan myself. I think Alsyvox may be at AXPONA next year so you won’t have to go to Europe.  Would love to visit Valencia, Spain. Seems like a beautiful place.

Here are couple of brief reviews of the Botticelli.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaQvH1wQLto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wip-RyqUOj0

@dracule1,

I hear you. Well, let’s hope they return to the US next year. Don’t quite see them on AXPONA 2019 Exhibitors list yet. 

Also checkout the Soundkaos - Liberation. I never thought in million years that a open baffle speaker can sound so realistic and grand. They were powered by Bakoon 25W Integrated amp. Aesthetically, they may not be eye catching but they do get out of the way. 

Unfortunately, I was wrong. I don’t think Alsyvox will be at AXPONA next year.

Will check out Soundkaos. Thanks.

I will be buying a pair for my 2nd system ASAP!!!!

Also checkout the Soundkaos - Liberation. I never thought in million years that a open baffle speaker can sound so realistic and grand.

Those are one of my bucket-list speakers I've wanted to hear for what a while.  Something just intrigues me about their look and their design, not to mention reports on their sound.

Lots of while audio gear in Europe that we in North America just never get to experience.

the Soundkaos - Liberatio

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews2/soundkaos2/1.html

Looks like ET and Dalquest DQ10 had a baby. But seriously, I hope to hear a pair in the US.

I have owned a pair of Apogee Caliper Signatures since 1989 (reribboned with Graz ribbons about a decade ago.)

The Alsyvox speakers have all of the Apogee magic with few of the drawbacks. While they don’t have all the dynamic punch of a cone, they have more than the Apogees did and every bit of the glorious sound including the low end.

The biggest problem I would have is would the Botticelli be better than a refurbed pair of Divas and worth $55K more? I can’t answer that.

I have heard the new Carvers and despite being a huge fan of Bob’s since the 1980s, they did not sound great to me. I heard them at RMAF as well and thought it might be the room that made them sound bad, but the Carver rep thought they sounded great.

The Botticellis were magic, pure and simple. Beautiful in every way and effectively Apogees reborn and improved upon.

If you are an Apogee aficionado and are shopping in this price range you will kick yourself if you don’t listen to them.

I currently own a pair of Stereophile “Class A” recommended speakers and have thought more than once about what I could get for them used to finance a pair of Botticellis.

The only drawback to me was the piano black finish - it would be a nightmare to live with and would show every dust particle, fingerprint and scratch.

@kucharsk  Excellent summary. Thanks!

Hi kucharsk7

I'll have a chance to listen to the Botticelli soon. It's a dream speaker for sure.  Several feedback/reviews of the speaker mentioned bass similar to cone bass with all the slam missing in other planar speakers.

As far as Carver's new ALS speaker is concerned, they require careful setup.  I have not heard them sound good in any of the shows.  It took me 6 months to have them sound great.  Once set up correctly, I can think of any speaker near its price coming close to the majestic sound stage, imaging, extension, delicacy and dynamics.  May be the new Magnepan 30.7 can compete, but I doubt it will have true 20 Hz extension with the slam and power in the bass.

I heard the Magnepan 30.7s at a stop on their multi-year dealer tour, and to me they sounded… horrible. They certainly had more bass than any other Maggie I’ve heard, but the mid range was strange and phasy. Since the crossovers were connected by alligator clips and thin wires used as jumpers, that could’ve been the reason for the issue, but the Magnepan staff there thought they sounded their best.

I couldn’t stand to listen to them for more than a few minutes.

I haven’t heard anything that sounded like the Botticelli since the last time I got to hear a pair of Apogee Full Ranges.

If I knew they would work in my room, and I could get enough for my current speakers to make the swap only moderately financially painful, and if there were any way I could demo a pair in my home to make sure that they would work as I heard them in the hotel suite, I would make the change instantly.

I along with Dracule now own these wonderful speakers. Some of your fears diminish once you own them and you begin to rediscover your music enjoyment and collection you having been missing out on. You heard them as I did @ RMAF and I take it they did something for you? It is all a matter of personal taste but I quit listening to the other rooms at 3:30 on Saturday PM......no desire to go around except to meet friends.
BTW I never went to the show expecting to find anything but high prices and mediocre sound and have some fun in the mountains. Went mostly to visit friends and find new music. Drove home Sunday depressed with this awe-inspired goal to own these. Mission accomplished and could not be happier. See the WBF for more information.   

I know the dealer for the US  for Alsyvox  Its Dr Vinyl out Laurel Md he has a pair of the Tintorettos . That is the base model for the line .

https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/alsyvox-planars-prepare-to-sell-your-magicos-ygs-wilsons-cess...

Two people already have it in US.

And they are available for audition . MD
I heard that you travel for an audition if you purchased the speaker total cost of travel is applied to the cost of your purchase.

Over at WBF, there is considerable disbelief that the new Alsyvox’s can compete with their favorite old fashioned horn based stuff. Personally, I think a lot of those folks are too closed minded to ever hear these new speakers, never mind what they can do; but to me, given the rave reviews that they have received so far, an audition should be on anyone’s short list -if they are seriously shopping in these price categories.

Dr Vinyl is having an open house in Laurel Maryland this weekend and our audio club is meeting there. I can't wait to hear these speakers.

If anyone wants to hear the Bonticellis with excellent electronics (CAT Black Path preamp/Concert Fidelity monoblock amplifiers) you are welcome to audition in eastern Nebraska. They are very special speakers without box colorations or driver deficiencies that exist in many designs. I also have sourcing information to purchase the speakers.