Aurender N10 and audiophile network devices


I’m new to computer audio but not new to high-end, so far I have been more traditional kind of guy.

I have decent turntable ( modded SME 20/2 ), decent heavily modified Tascam R2R, and heavily modified CDP AudioAero MKII.

My CDP does not sound that good like SME or tape but it is listenable and on good quality recording can sound pretty decent.

But since we have XXI already going for years, I have decided to give computer audio a try.

 

So after reading too many threads on different computer audio guru sites I have decided on Aurender N10.

It was supposed to be first Aurender which can sound better then CDP (enough for me), I do not expect digital to sound like analog.

I have bought for it Shunyata Zitron Alpha Digital decent SPIDF Tara Labs RS-1 cable to make it happy.

 

And here comes my surprise, it sounds flat, gray, only hi-res sound better on level with CD. My wife not an audiophile said it sound very boring.

I have invited audio buddies and we did blind tested my CDP and Aurender, nothing to compare CDP wins in spades.

N10  sounds much better when streaming from Tidal (go figure).

Sound from CD is much fuller, stronger has impact, sound from Aurendeer is very resolving but gray , thin sounding. Very uninviting.

To say that I’m disappointed is understatement. My other friend has another media server but it sound even  worse then Aurednder, 

So it is not generic to Aurender but to technology ?

As DAC I’m using internal AudioAero DAC. So basically I’m comparing Aurender transport vs AudioAero Transport. The some music (ripped CD to wav vs CD)

 

And one of my knowledgeable friends, told me that his acquaintance had the some problem, bought media server and was very disappointed, but instead of falling into despair he started looking for solution.

To control Aurender one need some wifi router. He changed power adapter of that router with some good quality lineal PSU (big change).

 

I have found on computer audio sites that connecting NAS and media servers to separate switch connected to router helps.

But it will not work for Aurender I have to control it using Aurender app so I need wifi router.

 

So buying i.e. AQVOX Audiophile High-End Gigabit will not work for AUrender. Does anybody have any advice what would help it make it more alive, sound bigger more colorful.

I’m not used to such thin and gray sound.

I’m cannot get how getting better PSU to some hifi router can help (it is just for controlling app),

How connecting NAS using expensive ethernet cables can help, Aurednder is streaming from internal HDD’s .

 

But I’m open for suggestions from somebody who owns AUrender or like and had similar problem and contrary to me have found satisfactory solution.

Thank you for reading.

Regards


sorlowski

Showing 7 responses by audioengr

To make your LAN sound good, I recommend the following:

1) AQVOX switch connected to the server, not a router

2) Wireworld 0.5m Platinum Ethernet cable

3) EMO EN-70e isolator

4) Wireworld 2.0m Platinum Ethernet cable

Connect to your server.

This is what I use. This combination in this order will make a huge difference in the SQ.

Steve N.

Empirical Audio

Here is my white-paper on S/PDIF cable length:

https://positive-feedback.com/Issue14/spdif.htm

Coax cables should always be terminated to RF connectors, like a 75 ohm BNC.  Trying to terminate coax to a RCA connector is a non-starter.  A good cable like my BNC cable will make a difference, but the Synchro-Mesh reclocker is 100 times more effective.

Steve N.

Empirical Audio

It's not fruitful to pursue expensive transports when you can beat all of them using a reclocker costing around $1K with an excellent digital cable included.  Nothing matters from a transport or any other digital source, except jitter.  There is no silver bullet or magical transport behavior.

The Synchro-Mesh and cable have 30-day money-back, less shipping.  I have never stiffed a customer in 22 years.

Steve N.

Empirical Audio

Not unexpected given the software, servers and DACs you tried.

Digital can rival and beat analog, but only with the right equipment and software. Just one bad cable, like Ethernet can kill the joy.

If you want Ethernet to sound really good, get these things:

1) AQVOX Switch

2) 0.5m Wireworld Platinum Ethernet cable

3) EMO EN-70e isolator

4) 1.5 or 2.0m Wireworld Platinum Ethernet cable

Drive your server with this. It should make a big difference.

Rip CD’s using either DBpoweramp on PC or XLD on Mac to .wav files. Make sure it compares to other peoples rips on the web.

If you are using USB to drive the DAC from the server, use Wireworld Platinum USB cables and put one of these in-line:

https://sotm-usa.com/collections/sotm-ultra/products/copy-of-tx-usbultra-regenerator-1

Without this regenerator, USB is much worse than Ethernet to S/PDIF coax.

BTW, I'm also a EE with 42 years digital design experience.

Steve N.

Empirical Audio

FYI, every transport I have heard is not as good as my computer audio playback.  That's why there is no longer a CD transport in my rack and why I never use them at shows.

Steve N.
Empirical Audio
First question: how expensive Ethernet cables can help in case of Aurender N10 (even Aurender support doubt that) playing from internal drives ? INO only SPIDF cable can matter.
Yes, I believe Ethernet cables could help when streaming from Tidal (we have not tested it).

If you are primarily using S/PDIF coax from the Aurender, then I recommend trying a Synchro-Mesh reclocker and my Reference cable.  Drive the SM with your digital cable.  The issue is jitter.  Even a SONOs with the Synchro-Mesh reclocking the S/PDIF output is impossible to beat.  Money-Back, less shipping on the SM.

Second question, to use Aurender controlling app one have to use wifi router hence there is no use case for  AQVOX Switch ?

True, not if you are using WIFI.  Also, it sounds like you are only controlling the playback using WIFI, not streaming the data over the network.  All you need to do is solve the S/PDIF jitter issue.

Steve N.
Empirical Audio
I don't attend shows anymore or you would have had a different experience.  It demonstrates how poorly most servers and USB interfaces are implemented.  Way too much jitter.

Steve N.
Empirical Audio