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karma,
Is that a pair of interconnects or just one as stated? If it's a pair, what are you asking for them? |
I got a blue graphene extreme power cord 15a 5 feet and a graphene extreme interconnect that I am selling if anyone needs it without any wait and at a good price |
Although already mentioned previously, and some might disagree, I suggest the speaker cables and power cords be elevated off the floor. There should be a bit of improvement with any cable.
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I installed my biwire Gaphene Extremes last night. Unlike my last cables, there are 2 full runs of cable, not just split at the end, and they are very heavy, which I wasn't expecting. Anyway, I was confident that I would hear a marked improvement, but as per my past experiences in this hobby, I'm never sure of what that improvement will sound like. As boxer12 says, they sound great, and I'm sure they will sound better.
They are giving me just what I would want and expect. I suppose because they suppress noise, everything sounds more open and clearly defined. Fine details are easy to hear, like soft background voices, inflections in a singers voice, and ambience, either real or artificial. I'm very satisfied, because they do for me what any worthwhile upgrade should do, which is bring me closer to the music. Great value for the money. Thanks Ozzy.
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These speaker cables are settling in & sounding absolutely wonderful. This is the type of improvement (cable-wise) I've only experienced with power cables in the past. Very impressed. |
Well you guys motivated me to buy the Graphene Extreme speaker cables. Bought a 10' used set directly from Cerious. Put them in this afternoon so they are settling in. They sound better than the Oyaide cables they replaced already. A tad congested right now (both me & the cables LOL) but I believe that will pass. Cerius is a great company to deal with. They were very responsive with me. |
Thanks Ozzy. I'm excited because I love the digital cable and the power cord. I feel pretty confident that I'm going to like them. |
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I was finally able to buy a biwired set of Graphene Extreme speaker cables today after wanting them badly for 21/2 years. Robert had a clearance sale. I am going to hook them up tonight and see what happens. |
I don't understand what the nonsense is all about. The GM cables sound great in my setup. I've auditioned much more expensive cable and prefer these. I know little about how they are made, nor do I care.
Frankly, I've never given a rip about how components are made or what parts are being used. Yes, the ingredients are important, but at the end of the day it's all in how it sounds TO YOU. In your room. With your components.
I've been at this for 40+ years and have owned a component from almost all manufacturers of note over the years (Audio Research, CJ, Wilson, Jadis, CAT, Wilson, MIT, Linn, Transparent, Synergistic, PS Audio, Accuphase, etc.). The ultimate arbiter are my own two ears, though I really do look to Forums/posters I trust for ideas on components I should consider. I learned about CT on this board, and I am happy I did.
Just my two cents.
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I don't really understand the direction that ptss has taken this thread since 11/5. I don't care to discuss graphene, all I attempted to do was to say that in some cases after interconnects or speaker cables are moved they require some settle in time. I have found that is especially true with the GE and Matrix products in my opinion.
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The MIT facts are irrelevant. Wonder what NASA’s facts are. 🚀
We ain't gonna be treated like trash
We got one thing
We are the clash!
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Interesting you have no comment re the MIT facts . Telling. |
I agree with @ozzy , a great company with great cables made by great people. |
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For those interested in this thread; take a look at the CPT thread. A scammer - gone. Money lost by genuine folk. Very sad. Do your due diligence on Graphene. Check the MIT -Mass Inst of Tech for some
truth on the matter "
ptss - Your statement is close to being libelous and is blitheringly illogical.
You ineptly equate a recidivist who took people's money and did not deliver product with a businessman who has provided numerous innovative products to highly satisfied customers.
Are you always this obtuse and confused? |
Psst! Hey, ptss, you’re supposed to wear a helmet when you go into battle.
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ptss,
Have you ever tried the Cerious Matrix cables?
Regardless as to how it is made theses cables have a quality that makes the music sound so alive. More so than any other cable I have tried.
ozzy
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For those interested in this thread; take a look at the CPT thread. A scammer - gone. Money lost by genuine folk. Very sad. Do your due diligence on Graphene. Check the MIT -Mass Inst of Tech for some truth on the matter. |
It’s as usual. BSers are so sensitive. And. When they have nothing real to say- revert to petty name calling. I mean really - who’d make fun of some vet with post traumatic stress syndrome. I say put a gun in their hand and send them to the front line ;) |
post traumatic stress syndrome. I’m not hot doggin ya. 🌭 |
Just wondering if the moniker 'ptss" stands for "petty troll says something"? Seems like a good fit.
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ptss, are you off your meds or on your meds? 🤪
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@lak. Are you on the payroll for this company. Do you have any idea about graphene. Or are you in the Fantasyland part of Disney World. Just respond to 2 questions to verify you’re not a spambot
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In the old days good folks would call people like you idiots and you’re uncle Bob charlatans. Good old days-monkeys called what they were. You may call me Honest-just like Abe:)
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@ozzy . You’re joking- right Ozzy :). Liguid Graphene (unobtanium) in Liquid Ceramic -clay. And I know - Bob’s your uncle. We have an old saying. BS,MS and PhD. You’ve definitely got it Piled Higher n Deeper. |
Graphene oxide. Now, that’s a scam. Now you can buy two and three layer Graphene powder for chump change. Don’t get suckered by the Graphene oxide.
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ptss,
Not sure what you are saying. Bob has a process of adding a slurry that coats the wiring with liquid ceramic and I believe the graphene is added to that slurry. If I am wrong about this please someone correct me.
And, I have purchased Graphene Oxide in a liquid form.
ozzy
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You’re not talking about “graphene” in a liquid - you’re talking about “carbon” atoms. Individual atoms do “not” have graphene properties! Let’s get real in this thread. |
I will chime in shortly on the Matrix. Fantastic cable |
I find that whenever the cables are moved it takes some time for them to resettle again. Afterall they do have some ceramic/graphene probably in a pasty form inside.
ozzy
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Thanks lak. I really like them. I was just surprsied that after sounding amazing right off the cooker they sounded not quite as good 2 days later. I am guessing burn-in is not complete. I've had them playing music for the past 2 days straight.
How many hrs post 100 hr cable cooker burn-in would you think they'd need to settle?
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ihmeyers, you just need to give your cables more time in your system while listening to music, they are great cables and will eventiually settle in.
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Listened to the GM cables in my system for a little while yesterday and today. They didn't sound quite as good as they did on Friday when they were straight off the cable cooker. Since they are still just 10 days old I am assuming they are still burning in and haven't fully settled. I've had cables go through good/bad/better stages before. I'm just a little surprised because I would have thought 4 days on the cooker would be a complete burn-in. Maybe not. I will report back.
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I have owned or demo’ed many of the ultra $$$ cables, and in my opinion, the Cerious Matrix is the best.
Enjoy!
Ken
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I let the GM cables break-in for 100 hrs on the cable cooker
while I tended to clients this week. After
three stressful days of presentations to my largest client, finally got to
reinstall and listen to my GM speaker cables.
All I can say is WOW.
There are no longer speakers in my room, just music.
First time I have ever experienced something like that in my system. CD after CD, all I hear is music. Performers enter and exit my listening room,
Jackson Browne, Frank Sinatra, Michael Feinstein, Fleetwood Mac, Bruce
Hornsby. I can hear every nuance, every
chord played, every inflection of a vocalists voice. On the live recordings I don’t merely hear
the audience, I discern almost every pair of hands clapping. Everything is cut from the same cloth, you
hear fundamentals and overtones like they sound in live music. There is detail but real detail, not
audiophile etched detail that you never hear listening to live music.
I can’t recommend these cables highly enough. While I haven’t heard some of the ultra
expensive cables out there I’d venture the GM will hold their own against
anything up to $10k. I guess now I have
to start thinking about the CT interconnects and power cables as well.
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Yes Hansen is still making speakers. You'd hardly know it because it's virtually impossible to reach them.
They came out with a Prince V3 about 2 years ago. I bought these V2 speakers sight unseen having never heard them because I've never seen a bad review. The fact that Lyric in NY was a dealer helped me decide as well. I think I got a pretty good deal on them (less than $20k, retail is $40k) and they look virtually new. I think it was meant to be because I couldn't wire someone I don't know that much money but an audio dealer friend of mine was in NY, paid for them and had them shipped to Florida and I paid him. They're really good, IMHO on par with Wilson Alexias. I had Wilson Duettes before this and I really liked them. I wanted Alexias but couldn't find any for less than mid $20k. They also have good WAF compared to some other speakers I was looking at that were much taller and the wife hated.
The CT cables should work well with the Hansens.
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ihmeyers,
I understand. I have changed my components a few times lately but the Cerious Matrix cabling is staying put. Not just because they make the music sound great but overall they're not that inexpensive.
I have never heard the Hansen's, but I have read good things about them in reviews. Are they still making speakers?
ozzy
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Ozzy,
I have the cables burning in on the cable cooker and will (hopefully) have time to evaluate on Friday.
As far as buying more CT cables, I want to get a handle on how everything sounds first. I have some pretty expensive cables in the system now. I’m not saying that the CT cables might not be better but I have maxed out my audio budget for the time being (just bought a pair of Hansen Prince V2 as well) so I will tread lightly.
Listened briefly yesterday and thought the CT cables had sounded better the previous day but that’s not unusual when you’re breaking things in. Especially since Friday I was breaking them in with music before I decided to switch them to the cooker.
I see more CT in my future.
Regards,Ian
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t_ramey,
How much for the power cord?
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ihmeyers,
Congratulations!
If you haven't already, you need to continue adding the Matrix cables throughout. Each additional (interconnect, power cords etc.) just keeps improving the overall sonic landscape.
ozzy
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I got my pair of
Graphene Matrix Speaker Cables
today.
First impressions, wow what a friggin beast. When I first opened the box I thought the cables were pretty thick but reminded me of old MIT music hose cables I had 20 years in terms of diameter. Then I realized each cable was for 1/2 (positive or negative) of one channel. Geez. The cables alone weigh 31 lbs according to Bob.
I've only had the opportunity to listen to a couple of CDs while they break in on white noise. I put on a Jackson Browne IEM bootleg I have to start. The bass response from my Hansen Prince speakers using Bob's cables literally shook my chair and the room where my system is for now SUCKS for bass response (open on one side and 23 foot ceilings). Like I said, I( need to burn them in, and need to spend more time listening but I'm a big believer in first impressions. These cables just seem to get out of the way and all you hear is music.
Ian
P.S. Thumbs up to all of you on the Agon forums. I would never had heard of CT had I not read about the cables here. Thanks to Bob Grost for top notch service. More to follow.
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I have a spare 5ft Blue GE power cable for sale if anybody is interested. |
Thanks shawbros3. As you can tell I think very highly of Bob's cables.
ozzy |
I was an early adopter of Bob's cables and always thought he offered affordable cables with solid performance. I recently decided to start building a secondary tube system and decided to go back to Cerious and try out his Graphene Extreme power cord. I'm glad I did. The improvement over his previous Nano Signatures is not subtle, stark improvement across the board. It's a very good power cord for digital sources, in my case a Lumin A1.
Tuneful bass, smooth treble, separation, depth, extended highs, rich mid-range, dynamics, it's all there, but most importantly makes my Avantgarde Zero 1's sound natural and engaging with lifelike tactile images. You feel the music with the Extremes and the pace is so nice to follow, not garbled up or disjointed in any way.
I'm impressed, and at the current price is a no-brainer. All the previous posts are spot on, these are super bang for your buck. Great job Bob!
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@blindjim ,
you will not regret the decision to try the Matrix line. Let us know what you think. |
stunning discourse! had to chime in on this one. especially given the note on how these escalated performance over SR Apex and or Tesla. having had the Apex and not been absolutely floored by their influence, I'll admit they were a strong performer and decent value at the time. getting off the sR additive wiring is a cool thing too.
am looking forward to the opportunity to check out any of this new line up by Mr. Gross.
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@rgrost sorry to hear of the Graphene resale hassles.
What a shame, they are an excellent product and a very good used price.
Yes, some day I'll be ordering a Matrix power cord and speaker cables.
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Just to let everyone know I have pulled all the ads for the trade in Graphene Extreme. All I got was questions, questions, questions with "customers" (you really cannot call someone a customer who never buys anything) trying to finagle a deal. "How much is shipping for the GE power cord?". "$8.00...that is great...I will take it". "Oh BTW I live in South Korea and $8.00 shipping is great. I didn't mention I live in Korea when I asked for shipping costs because I didn't see how it was relevant...". "Oh BTW, we use Schuko connectors here...I assume these come with Schuko connectors. If not you will have to pull the connectors off of these and put on new Schuko connectors before you send them to me." I was spending more time dealing with stuff like this than filling Matrix orders. No more...totally fed up. I will give it to friends for free. I will still gladly accept orders for new Graphene Extreme. If you are a repeat customer talk to me and I will take care of you on the trade ins (Not for FREE, though...). Sorry to vent but OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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rgrost,
Bob,
A superior product will always be in demand. And yours is not only a great product but is priced very competitively compared to all the "High End" cable companies.
Hopefully your son will learn a good life lesson in the process.
P.S. I still want to try your power cables someday.
ozzy
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