HI,
Have a listen to the Nord Acoustic One SE NC1200 Stereo and see if that makes your main system, i own a pair of One UP SE NC500MB with REV D upgrade boards and Sonic Imagery OP-AMPS the sound is incredible at £2200, before hearing the Nords i had no interest in class D but so glad i heard them now.
Approx 10 years ago I owned a pair of Edge NL Reference driving the Nola Grand Reference and will state what im hearing now with a much more modest system including Nord Acoustic class D sounds better. |
HI Guys i have no financial interest in any of the products mentioned, just genuine curiosity,
What do you think i am advertising ?
Smack id rather Crack or Neil Young/Lowell George RIP.
I hope some genuine members offer some sensible opinions, GaN Devices are meant to be very special when used correctly,
I believe a well designed amplifier in the future promises to be very special and could be offered at reasonable prices.
That is what we want right ? |
three_easy_payments What do you think i advertising ? I am offering opinions regarding class D amplifiers using http://www.ti.com/power-management/gallium-nitride/overview.html Do you not want better sound at hopefully cheaper prices ? I know i do, I have no financial gain from any class D amplifiers,my only hope is the amps using GaN Devices improve the amplifiers performance, And become more affordable which is a good thing right ? |
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bjesien
HI I am struggling to understand what you mean. |
I am talking about not just current class D but the future possinilitys with GaN devices being used.
How much is the 350.8 please ?
The Nords are approx 2k and sound sublime.
Who is Icelander ? |
Ihasaguy
Soccer is now football,
State of the art amplifiers is now class D.
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I would like to state i am currently enjoying my music collection using class D with passive pre amp, the combination cost is approx 4500 gbp which i feel with this level of performance is exceptional, i am very happy and have no interest in changing to find out if i can match performance with similar priced SS or valves, obviously great valves are great valves and great SS is great SS but the question is at what prices are they great and can they compete with what i am hearing.
Its not just amplifiers i am in the process of buying a DAC, the one i am drawn to is the PS Audio Direct Stream quoting 20 x DSD, on paper that seems extraordinary if i have read that right. |
seanheis1
You are completely wrong,
My class D amps do not have a thin hollow sound,
What are you listening to to make that statement ? |
The benefit of class D is better sound quality now and the penitential with GaN Devices to get even better,
To state the benefit of class D is just efficiency makes you sound stupid.
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Boys why do you not all agree to disagree, if people want to rant on about their yesteryear amplifiers let them,
SS amplifiers are getting so damn expensive they are becoming way out of reach of most and due to the fact manufacturers are selling less of them the asking prices are going up threw the roof,
If you want to buy the best sounding amplifiers of 2019 at realistic prices choose a class D amplifier because they sound as good as any higher priced SS, and are much cheaper to run, its not rocket science.
You cant blame the messenger if your front end is not up to it anymore, maybe if you spent less on your SS amplifier, you could address your front end problem and achieve better sound at a still overall lower price, come on can you really justify spending /20k/30k/40k/50k on a SS amplifier when there are 10/20 times cheaper and better sounding alternatives.(class D)
Come on everyone use some common sense, lets all move on to newer and better things, support class D the now and future of state of the art amplifiers, better sound, better prices, cheaper running costs, its not rocket science.
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kosst_amojan
Good point regarding .05% switching distortion at 1 watt.
If that is the case then what i am hearing with my Class D amps is the best damn distortion i have ever heard.
I have sold off my SS Monos and VT stereo, i have now got the money put aside for my new Universal Disc Player, i have purchased new cables equipment supports, which has improved the sound even further, plus i have lots of spare money to buy more music i love collecting first press Japan cds and the mini lps with obi strips love em.
Most importantly for me is the improvement in sound quality of my system, when auditioning the class D amp nothing else had been changed in my system, the class D using Hypex NC500 out performed my mega buck SS and VT amplifiers in all areas.
Before investing in mega buck SS Valve/VT everybody needs to hear the very latest state of the art class D in their systems and trust their own ears, i am so glad i did.
If that is distortion i am hearing call me 100% all in, long live better sounding distortion and the good news is there is promise of even better sound using GaN Devices "times they are a changing". |
latitk Here is a list of class D with GaN Devices
The use of GaN-based power transistor tech is now emerging for Class D audio power amplifiers. Seems appropriate to devote a forum thread to this topic. At least 3 companies have commercial class D amps in their books: Merrill Audio, with their model Element 118 ($36k per monoblock, 400 W into 8 ohms, 800W into 4 ohms), Element 116 ($22k per monoblock, 300 W into 8 ohms, 600W into 4 ohms) and Element 114 (coming soon). https://merrillaudio.netReview of Element 118 at this link: http://www.enjoythemusic.com/superioraudio/equipment/1018/Merrill_Audio_Element_118_Monoblock_Amplif...ADG Productions, with their Vivace Class D amp ($15k per monoblock pair, 100W into 4 ohms). (The designer emailed me indicating he has another product in the pipeline.) http://agdproduction.comReview of the Vivace Class D moniblocks at this link (warning: link might not work (1/11/2019)): https://positive-feedback.com/reviews/hardware-reviews/agd-production-vivace-gantube-monoblock-ampli...Technics SE-R1 Class D stereo amp ($17k per stereo amp, 150WPC into 8 ohms, 300WPC into 4 ohms) Stereo Power Amplifier SE-R1 | Reference Class R1 Series | Technics US Preliminary review of the Technics SE-R1 at this link: Technics SE-R1 Digital Amplifier Technics also has a lower priced GaN-based class D integrated amp in their catalog: Grand Class Stereo Integrated Amplifier SU-G700 Hi-Fi Audio | Technics US
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As stated above prices are high with state of the art Class D Amplifiers using GaN Devices but the hope is there for lower prices in the future,
My class D amplifiers are not using GaN Devices but their sound quality allowed me to sell on my higher priced SS and VT amplifiers, before the market becomes flooded.
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elizabeth,
I have read and respect your negative opinion of class D, by being sooooo negative without really giving a reason makes you seem somewhat worse than an over enthusiastic Class D lover.
Sorry just my opinion on how your comments read to me. |
Clearthink
Have you heard any class D amplifiers in 2019 ?
Do you personally know every member of Audiogon ?
Are you religious ?
I for one am a member of Audiogon and i 100% agree with miveraudio regarding everything he/she is saying regarding 2019 class D amplifiers,
I own class D monos with Hypex NC500 and will honestly say it sounds amazing, it does not lack in any area of sound quality and only costs 2k.
My previous amplifiers were Edge NL Reference which are the same price as my 2 bedroom flat in the UK, unfortunetly their value decreased and i lost money, my flat since purchasing has gone up 50k,
Do you not get the point Class D owners are making regarding sound quality and low running costs and low purchase prices.?
If these class D amplifiers were sounding this good 10 years ago, i would not of chosen my Edge NL Reference, i would of bought a Class D.
Before purchasing my Edge amps 10 years ago, i auditioned various other amplifiers, Valve, SS, VT and Class D, but the Edge amps in my system were best, now in 2019 at 2k i have what i consider are as good as, or maybe better than, my Edge amps. |
Atmasphere
My class D sounds incredible to my ears and cost me 2k,
How much is the entry level amplifier you make please ?
How much is your reference amplifiers please ?
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