Classical Music for Aficionados


I would like to start a thread, similar to Orpheus’ jazz site, for lovers of classical music.
I will list some of my favorite recordings, CDs as well as LP’s. While good sound is not a prime requisite, it will be a consideration.
  Classical music lovers please feel free to add to my lists.
Discussion of musical and recording issues will be welcome.

I’ll start with a list of CDs.  Records to follow in a later post.

Berlioz: Symphonie Fantastique.  Chesky  — Royal Phil. Orch.  Freccia, conductor.
Mahler:  Des Knaben Wunderhorn.  Vanguard Classics — Vienna Festival Orch. Prohaska, conductor.
Prokofiev:  Scythian Suite et. al.  DG  — Chicago Symphony  Abbado, conductor.
Brahms: Symphony #1.  Chesky — London Symph. Orch.  Horenstein, conductor.
Stravinsky: L’Histoire du Soldat. HDTT — Ars Nova.  Mandell, conductor.
Rachmaninoff: Symphonic Dances. Analogue Productions. — Dallas Symph Orch. Johanos, cond.
Respighi: Roman Festivals et. al. Chesky — Royal Phil. Orch. Freccia, conductor.

All of the above happen to be great sounding recordings, but, as I said, sonics is not a prerequisite.


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Schubert,

I ordered it, and very glad I did.

btw, I haven’t yet received the Frank Sonata.
When I do, I’ll let you know.
Scott_w,

Hopefully you’ll get some ideas on this thread that will turn you on.
Sonically, my recommendations above all are excellent.
You might want to try the Stravinsky L’Histoire du Soldat on HDTT for sonic realism. Maybe the best sound I ever heard. (If you don’t know the site already, Google it.  You can purchase a download or a disc.)
dweller:

Thanks for mentioning the Living Stereo of Reiner’s Mahler 4.
I’m listening to it now on the XRCD version. Forgot how wonderful it is.
Whart:

I still have some of those original Starker recordings (of Beethoven and Brahms) on Period.

schubert:

Based on your rave, I’ve ordered the Chung-Lupu recording of the Frank Sonata.
(other nice repertoire on the CD also)
Thanks to all the contributors.
After one day, this site seems to have gotten off to a great start!
For cello lovers, there’s an incredible, but pricey, set by my favorite cellist called the “Art of Maurice Gendron” on Decca. He was certainly one of the greatest cellists of the 20th century, with a tone like liquid gold.  The set contains both his solo and concerto recordings.  He was like none other with the possible exception of Emanuel Feurman, with whom I believe he studied.

+2 for Ivan Moravec.  One of the most underrated of pianists.
Wonderful musician.

schubert, 
i agree with you about his Brahms playing.
Just listening to Ars Nova recording of L'Histoire du Soldat available on HDTT.
Stunning performance and sound from the 1950’s
I just happened to listen to the same disc yesterday.
Great performances and sound.
I promised in my original post to list some favorite LPs, but, since they’re from so long ago I know they’ll be hard to find.
So, just generally, I’ll recommend some Living Stereo records with Reiner on Analogue Productions. These are readily available.

Stravinsky:  Song of the Nightingale
Prokofiev:  Alexander Nevsky 
Strauss:  Also Sprach Zarathustra 
Strauss:  Death and Transfiguration (not sonically great, but wonderful rendering)

If anyone wants older recommendations, please let me know.  (I still have some 3000 LP’s to go along with over 5000 CDs.)
Not for nothing, but in a recorded live performance of a symphony or concerto, who is the guy who screams approval a split second after the last note is played?

Does that annoy you as much as it does me?
Or am I just a curmudgeon?
Schubert,

I agree.  If there is a spontaneous reaction from the whole audience, that’s fine.
But, too often, there’s one exhibitionist who just wants to to be heard.

+1 to Barbirolli’s Sibelius 2nd and especially to Paray’s  Saint-Saens 3rd
ANY of Mozart’s Piano Concertos (with the possible exception of the first three numbered concertos which he didn’t actually compose but arranged.) Brendel or Perahia are as good as any pianists in these.

Rachmaninoff: “The Bells” (his favorite composition and mine) for soloists, chorus and orchestra.  Not well known, but a masterpiece by this supreme genius whose time has finally come after many years of snobbish derision.
Rattle is excellent in this.

Brahms: Serenades, in D and A Major. Great symphonic compositions from the youthful Brahms.  Kertesz on London/Decca is an oldie but goodie.

Glazunov: Violin Concerto.  An unjustly neglected work. Beautiful from beginning to end. Oistrakh or Heifetz are supreme

On Philps, don’t forget the wonderful Haydn Symphony set by Colin Davis.
I must have seven or eight LPs from that series 
Re: Rachmaninoff “The Bells”.
I based my recommendation of Simon Rattle in this piece because of a live telecast of him on the Berlin Philharmonic Concert Hall site— a truly exciting rendering.  Sadly, his Warner Classics CD, IMO, is leaden with the sound to match.
I did a comparison of 12 recordings of “The Bells” and came to the following conclusions: Ashkenazy on Decca/London was my favorite along with Kondrashin on RCA. The former had among the best sound, the latter, unfortunately, the worst.  Surprisingly, the non-Russian Jose Serebrier on Warner was among the best performances, with some of the best sound. Semyon Bychkov on Hanssler was similarly good.

Probably more than you wanted to know about this piece.😊
Newbee,

Thanks for the recommendation.  I’ll definitely order it.
Polyansky’s  recording of “The Bells” is among the best.
One of the great musical experiences of my life was at a live concert with him conducting Rachmaninoff’s Second Symphony. Truly extraordinary.
Upon reflection, my comment about the sound of the Gershwin record has to be qualified to reflect my system and, to a certain extent, my taste.
Of course, I can’t guarantee it will sound superlative on all systems.
On the lighter side, is an LP titled “Gershwin on Broadway,” with a very young Michael Tilson Thomas conducting the Buffalo Philharmonic in Gershwin overtures.
The panache of the playing is infectious and the sound is world class: One of the best renderings of an orchestra on any medium.
It appears from time to time on Amazon used, also on eBay.  Well worth searching for.
Interestingly, there’s a half-speed mastering of it that does not sound as good as the original.
Gs5556,

Schubert Trios arrived today.
Very nice recommendation!
Gorgeous Schubert, expertly played.
At first, fortepiano took some getting used to.
After that, sounded very natural.
Beautifully recorded.
Schubert,

  You’re not nuts.  The biggest difference between LPs and CDs is the air around the instruments.
I’m going into withdrawal.  My amplifier crapped out AGAIN, so I’m without music. A very sorry state.
I’m getting a new amplifier!!
Someone else (audioconnection) recommended the Belles Aria monoblocks, but they are a little out of my price range.  Right now I’m considering the Red Dragon monoblocks (at half the price.)
I totally agree.  Those remasterings of early stereo recordings on CD are wonderful.  The majority of CDs however don’t have the space that most LPs do.
Schubert,

The Franck Violin Sonata et al finally arrived.
I had almost forgotten how beautiful this piece is. The performance by Chung and Lupu is lush and luscious, especially the first movement. Never heard it played so sensitively. The Debussy and Chausson are a nice addition.
Newbee,

I had to order from Europe, but finally obtained the Grechaninov disc.
”Snowflakes” is delightful  I also love “Missa Sancti Spiritus.”
I haven’t listened to the symphony yet, but will.
Thanks for the recommendation!
I agree with Schubert.  The doctor had very eclectic, excellent taste.
I think that it would be difficult and not very helpful for us to start picking choices for you.
That would be our taste. You should develop your own taste.

Schubert has some very good guidelines above.
Start with the more well known composers.
In my experience, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Mozart and Vivaldi appeal to neophytes most.  The doctor’s taste was quite far reaching, so you might find other composers that appeal to you.
It can be an exciting venture of discovery for you.

Have fun!
Re: RVWilliams
My favorite of his is Symphony #2 “A London Symphony”
Captures the city with Big Ben and street sounds, musically interpolated.
Truly wonderful work.

Also “A Sea Symphony” (Symphony #1).  The opening bars are thrilling — an evocation of the sea.

“Symphony Antarctica” is actually from a film score evoking the aloneness  of that continent.
Well, I just had to order the Tabakova, too.

Just listening to a Nonesuch record I bought over a half a century ago, with some of the best sound ever recorded.  It’s of Bach Cantatas No.140 and No. 57.
Karl Ristenpart leads definitive performances of these wonderful works.  “Selig ist der Mann “ is a not well known, but gorgeous cantata, along with the ever popular “Wachet auf....”

I’m not sure if this cantata series ever made it to CD.
There was a whole series of Bach cantatas with Ristenpart on Nonesuch.
All of them with amazing sonics.
I’ve been away for ten days and unable to contribute anything to this thread, but now will try to catch up.
Khatia Buniatishvili is indeed an extraordinary pianist.  If you want to hear how incredible she is, listen to her take on Mussorgsky’s “Pictures at an Exhibition.”
totally original concept, with Horowitzian technique.  On the same CD is a sizzling Ravel’s “La Valse.”

On the subject of the most most difficult piece to perform, several decades ago, I bought tickets to hear Strauss’ “Ein Heldenleben” conducted by Klaus Tennstedt.
when I showed up at Carnegie, there was an insert saying he was ill and was being replaced by James DePreist.  I was bummed out because I had bought these tickets months in advance to hear Tennstedt.  
But I was bummed out even more after I heard I believe it was The Philadelphia Orchestra totally butcher the piece into unrecognition.  The only conclusion I can draw, is that the piece must be a bear to play, and that DePreist couldn’t bring it together with limited rehearsal.
Schubert,

How did you ever guess!?  I was on a cruise ship, which is a germ generator.  As I write, I’m coughing my head off and wheezing out lyrics to songs.
I didn’t exactly get the flu, but something very close to it, and have been laid up all week. Not a happy camper!
I’ve been following the discussions, though.
I’ll contribute something when I feel more human.
Lots of love for Glenn Gould here.  One of the great musical minds of the 20th century.  And, what a pianist!!!
Also a big fan of Jeux.  A masterpiece.
This forum seems to have dried up since I was taken Ill.
Thank goodness, I’m feeling a lot better. I’d like to revive it.
I wonder if there are any Mahler lovers out there.
If so, who is your favorite Mahler conductor?
I know Horenstein is considered by many to be the non plus ultra, but I like Solti a lot, even though he’s put down by many Mahler aficionados.
Who do you like?  And for that matter, who are some of your favorite conductors in general?
I have both the Sony and DG Bernstein/Mahler sets. I have to listen to them more often. I like Abbado for Mahler and in general.  George Szell has wonderful recordings of the 4th and the 6th, and of, course, I like him for everything else. Von Karajan is up there with Mahler. And, believe it or not, my favorite Mahler 9th is conducted by Kiril Kondrashin  with the Moscow Symphony. The aforementioned Solti is great in Mahler as well as Horenstein.
Off the top of my head, these conductors come to mind.
I’ll look through my collection and come up with more later.

btw, What’s your favorite Mahler symphony?  Mine is the 9th.  After that, it’s a toss-up.  Each is so unique and wonderful.
I also like Barbirolli in 5, Leinsdorf as well. It’s hard to find a bad performance of 5.
The 7th is a tough nut to crack.  I hated it for years, but now love it.
Abbado recording finally did the trick.  Maazel also has a delicious 4th with Kathleen Battle ideal in the final movement.  Besides Kondrashin, there are almost too many good 9ths to name, but Rattle does a good job. In the 6th, von Karajan is my favorite. Solti in the 1st, 3rd and 8th. Mehta is a surprising choice in the 2nd with the Vienna Phil., NOT the Israel Phil.
These are favorites at the moment. Like most Mahler lovers, I have to go through myriad performances of the others I own to come up with more.

Let’s get this forum rolling again!

Who are some of your favorite pianists, violinists, cellists?
What about your favorite composers, concertos, sonatas, symphonies, tone poems, etc.?

Horowitz, Rachmaninoff, Pletnev and Glenn Gould top my list of pianists.
Violinists include Milstein, Bell, and, of course, Heifetz.
As for cellists, there’s Maurice Gendron, Janos Starker and Wallerstein.
Composers are a hard one.  I love so many. But aside from the obvious Beethoven, Mozart, Bach and Brahms, there’s Rachmaninoff, Prokofiev and Stravinsky, et al.
Favorite symphonies are Beethoven “Eroica”, Rachmaninoff 2nd, Mahler 9th, Mozart “Prague”, Prokofiev and Shostakovich 5ths, Stravinsky “Symphony of Psalms” and many more.
Favorite Concertos: Any Mozart Piano Concerto, Glazunov Violin Concerto, Beethoven’s 4th Piano Concerto, Prokofiev’s 2nd Piano Concerto, Rachmaninoff’s 4th Piano Concerto.
Any Strauss Tone Poem.
Beethoven’s 2nd and 3rd Cello Sonatas, and just about any of his piano sonatas.

This is just a partial list.
As you can see, my taste is quite conventional.
I have LP’s of a lot of the older recordings you mention (e.g Hanson, Mercury, Maag, London, Munch,RCA)
They still sound wonderful.
The Dorati “Rite” is also my favorite of the dozen or so recordings of it I own.
Has been for many years. I had the digital LP before the CD was released.
Wonderful sound for early digital, I believe recorded on a sound stage.
kef_lover,

Do you have the LP’s of the recordings in your last post?

I’ll list my favorites of your selections in my next post.