Curious what people think is the best "value" high end speaker (~5K to 15K)


I am on a long search for speakers and just curious what people think is the best value both new or used in speakers ranging from around $5000 to $15000? I have a set of Paradigm S8's (V1) and love them but looking for another set for another set in a different listening area (25 x 20?, maybe larger).  I love the full sound of JBL's and looking for something in that range (it also helps that JBL's seem to hold their value better than most, which will be a consideration). The only drawback to JBL is footprint.  I prefer a smaller footprint which is why after reading I hope to listen to several B&W 800 series but open to suggestions across the board.  used Watt Puppies? Revels?  I am curious about peoples experience with McIntosh XR100's. 
gene3x

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Salk, downside is long wait times, but that’s because the finish is custom order, and super custom ones add on >$2500 to the cost (one demo model they were selling said they used >40 panels of the veneer to get the design mirrored both left/right and up/down. 

KEF, new R series look good, the Reference series is great.

Revel, unbelievably high praise from most everyone whose heard the new Beryillium line, and the Spinorama backs up the impressions.

I’ve heard the flagship B&W 800 model, it was mediocre, as in it didn’t sound bad, but it sounded average. Wilson is worse than B&W.

Dutch & Dutch 8c, most likely the best speaker hands down for the price, even compared to passive speakers, only limiting if you sit very far away and need super efficient speakers, and it doesn’t dig super deep but it allows a subwoofer add-on with crossover.


@gene3x 
 
Look at Stereophile’s measurements for Tekton. They are pretty neutral and have good imaging, they have a huge downside though due to the design, they have garbage vertical performance. I’m sure you’ve heard electrostatics like MartinLogan having a “pin needle sweet spot”, in that you have to be perfectly cemeteries for them to sound good, Tekton is the same way except in the vertical plane, so any amount of vertical head movement  (sitting upright vs slouched) is gonna change the sound by a good margin.
@jburidan

Every blind demo I’ve found that included a Salk speaker has had Salk come out on top, even sighted ones I’ve found. Every single speaker they have mentions phase coherence, so I don’t see how you can make such a false claim,
@gene3x

If you want a wide sweet spot, then I agree that Ohm Walsh should be on your short list. Their flagship is <$12,000 in the veneer of your choosing, or they have one ready to sell (demo model I believe) for <$9000. However, contact them and give precise room dimensions, their higher priced models are usually made to work with larger rooms and wouldn’t work if your room is smaller, there usually isn’t a sound quality difference within the same model line.