Ever discover cheapo speakers actually sound...


Ever discover super inexpensive speakers sound really decent when main speakers are out of commision?
I am using my main system worth over $30k to play list ~$240 street price $125 speakers, and they sound amazing.
This reminds me of the discussion of when would you get a better sound using expensive amps and cheap speakers or expensive speakers and cheap amps.
pedrillo
I gotta say Shadorne if you haven't tried what Pedrillo is talking about and have added as much opinion to this thread as you have you look foolish. How can you presume that he must possibly have something wrong in his system? He did say that an A/B showed that the Merlins are leaps and bounds better. I don't mean to be critical either but I must say I disagree with almost everything you said.

Pedrillo, I know exactly what you are talking about. I've done the same thing before and been amazed at how good a 500.00 speaker can sound on great gear. That same speaker was a real snoozer hooked up to a sub 1000.00 system but when hooked up to my main rig, WOW! I've experienced this more than once as well. I've also tried to drive expensive speakers with cheap gear and there my findings were that it didn't sound good. If I had to choose long term ownership of say a Creek or NAD integrated driving 10K speakers or 10K of amps and preamp driving 500.00 speakers I'd choose the latter.

Oh and yes I do believe that speakers that were sitting around cold and uplayed could improve quite a bit after playing them for a while. I've heard the same thing myself, maybe not quite to the degree that you describe.
I currently have weather-worn Realistic Minimus 7's ($100 retail back in the 1980's) on my deck that sound fantastic these days with my current system....leaps and bounds beyond what they sounded like with much lesser gear that I have used them with over the years.
It shouldn't be that surprising. JBL/Harmon has the resources and expertise to be able to put out a halfway decent product at that price. Depending upon how they chose to voice the speaker it could be non-aggressive sounding and its faults being subtractive in nature. I would think that a well sorted out system would make most low cost, but not cheap, speakers sound pretty good.
Good gear overcomes poor speakers due to the gear's musicality. If your gear sounds transparent, natural, liquid or airy any speakers can latch onto it. When the electronics lack these qualities speakers have no means to produce them. I'm not saying good gear can fix your speakers or room; simply that the gear informs speaker behavior way more than speakers do the gear.
Thank you Chadnliz, Thorman, Ojgalli, Almarg, Mapman, Rockvirgo, Shadorne, Onhwy61, Ejlif.
Ejlif thanks for the post, you are right, though Shadorne was in earnest in contributing. In my earlier threads I have expressed my satisfaction with the merlins, in fact I mentioned that I haven't heard any showroom in NYC that leaves me wanting to change save for the mbl's.
What I have noticed is the different speaker executions present different flavors. I used to like the magnepans, dynaudio, piegas, kharmas, jm labs/focal, soundlabs etc. I still like them but I prefer what the mbls and bolzanos do, it's a different presentation. My merlin setup is hard to beat, I doubt I will ever sell them, and I like them discoupled. I believe that decoupling them makes them sound cleaner, I don't want my floor resonating.
By the way these jbls cabinets resonate like crazy(light and thin boxes), they have alot of grunge on top compared to the merlins but that's expected.
I have decided to build my next speakers with help from professionals. Yes I am getting help, my girlfriend says I need it, bless her little soul, someone needs a hug.
Ok. My only contribution will be the cabinet design and the building of it and yes you guessed it right if you were going to ask if leadshot will be in there, but how much, even I don't know. My intention will be to make the cabinet as quiet as possible. And I will decouple them from the room as well. Any suggestions?