Every Audiophile's Turn-on


The Germans have a phrase "es ist sehr kompliziert" to refer, usually, to the complexity involved in turning on a mature audiophile system (LOL).
SO, this thread is devoted to the topic of turning on your audiophile system.
Suggest the following procedure for providing comparative information; Agoners can use the figures to determine where they stand on a range from "simple" to "ridiculous."
Here are the categories:
1. Number of component boxes (no loudspeakers)
2. Number of remotes
3. Button strikes necessary to complete the system turn-on
4. Total time (start to finish, including delays) necessary to enable all functions within your system
Here's my score:
1. 9 boxes to handle internet, TV, music collection, and video collection
2. 6 remotes
3. 20 button strikes to enable entire system
4. 1:15 minutes/seconds each time started
This is a stereo system that uses as many automated triggers as possible. The final summary is, therefore:
9/6/20/1:15
Let me know how your system turn-on compares.
And perhaps a COMPETITION is in order. I leave it to my fellow Agoners to decide whether the longest, most complex turn-on is the winner (= most toys and flexibility) or the simplest and shortest wins (gets to the media fastest).
AND, I believe that KDude66 told me that he would provide a Lyngdorf 3400 to the winner...
...but, maybe, we should check with KDude about that (LOL)...

craigl59
Hmmm 🤔 this is for 2 channel music (cd or LP) only ... none of that new fangled streaming nonsense 

1. 17 boxes (all active powered components)
2. 3 remotes (aren’t remotes rather like automatic cars, for those who can’t drive stick)
3. 10 button or switch presses to play a CD or LP (not including setting level) - that’s from standby, 16 from a cold start
4. 3 minutes to start up (the VTL monoblocks warming up)

frankly the system stem is overly complex, but the complexity has crept up over time and all plays a part 😉
folkfreak:
Impressive; the boxes build up after a while, don’t they? Assume you keep it in standby as much as possible. I use a Furman LPC Elite to keep all box power either switched or unswitched in order to help startup.
Main System
For CD playing:  

1. Number of component boxes (no loudspeakers):  2 (one power amp and one preamp/ CD player)
2. Number of remotes:  1 (preamp/ CD player) 
3. Button strikes necessary to complete the system turn-on:  3
4. Total time (start to finish, including delays) necessary to enable all functions within your system:  maybe 20 seconds

Main System
For LP playing:  

1. Number of component boxes (no loudspeakers): 4 (two above plus TT and phono preamp)
2. Number of remotes:  1
3. Button strikes necessary to complete the system turn-on:  6
4. Total time (start to finish, including delays) necessary to enable all functions within your system:  maybe 30 seconds

Rich 

rar1:

Neat and elegant; we have an early leader in the shortest turn-on category...

1: turns on amplifier


The rest is my pc, which has internet streaming and gets turned on anyway.

the dac is always on.

Passive preamp has a relatively static setting.

Lots of analog, but I rarely bother.

simple is best, less is more. Less hardware, simpler hardware..is more sound quality. always. Thus: startlingly lifelike sound that is monumentally captivating in every single note. Forever. It has never failed to do this all important thing, in over a decade. But, it's my dac, our cables, our preamp, our speakers, our acoustics.

No twitchy twitchy, no ritual, no complexity, just tunes.

I had 6/7 channel surround by the mid 80’s, and by 2000-2004, was running highly customized CRT projection HT. one of the top projection systems that was in existence as a home or pro CRT projection set up. Easily in the top 10.

twitchy twitch.

No more twitch, just tunes.

Less is more. The physical realization of Goldberg-gedanken is not the way to go, but one generally has to do it -before one realizes...that there’s nothing there.
# of components,4 incl.TV,DVD/P,Computer & amp/control center...
1 universal remote.
2 button strikes.
Total power up time incl.soft start amp,30 seconds...
Guess I lose since I like things simple.

Audio system - 2 boxes, 2 buttons for on/off, 1 remote

A/V system - primarily voice commands to a Google Home that controls a Harmony Hub. Occasionally use a little 7 button learning remote that has been taught certain frequent commands. Best remote bargain ever, 3 bucks. 1 more simple remote for a streaming service, but rarely use.

Or is there a winner for simplicity?

tls49:

Thread participants decide whether simplest is best or more complicated wins. State your preference and we’ll tally the votes.

Like the Google Home option; have one but have never gotten it connected to the audio stuff. Works great for the phone and sports scores however...

teo_audio:

Do you keep the computer on all of the time? Find this takes several button strikes in my setup. Also, compared the two systems I use and the 5-channel one is more automated and requires less turn-on time than the stereo setup. The stereo setup is much more HEA and the Oppo 105 player injects additional complexity.

Some systems take more, some take less;
Which is better is anyone’s guess.
For me, I like simple as the highest gain,
Until a complex system makes me assess again.

Schroeder:

Think you're right, let's agree on this;

The system wants to reach its bliss.

If boxes cold and lifeless lie,

A button switch is worth a try.

Think I must be boring nowadays
3 boxes, 1 remote

Turn on Lyngdorf 2170, select digital Vault
Bluesound Vault always on, select track via my phone.

Time from turnon to music?
10 seconds on a slow day.

And all without moving my backside one iota
Bliss
uberwaltz:
ULTIMATELY, there can only be one!
One big box with a single input (network at ridiculous speed) and two outputs (HDMI and speaker connectors).
In the box will be an operating system, a software media center (like Roon or JRiver), a software preamp with sophisticated room correction, all leading to a powerful class D amplifier. May or may not have internal SSD memory for storing purchased downloads. The MQA crowd would like to keep all copy protected...
All controls are handled with ergonomic friendliness through the HDMI monitor/TV. And all will be turned on with ease by a single voice command.
Perhaps the power supply is a very big wall wart.
Will and when it be built? Who knows...
...BUT IF IT IS, it will be BLACK.

Since I leave most on 24/7, it is easy.
(I only touch two boxes, one remote, plus media items)
1) Rotate main volume knob back to a useful range
2) Decide if CDs in changer good to go, or do I want others?
2a) I want others, so I have to
3) pick up CD remote and move tray to #1(I usually use a five disc changer all the time to my DAC, I could use other single disc machines, but this is my usual)
4) put down remote
5) press button on changer to open tray
6) take out disk and put it in container.
6a) 6b) 6c) 6d) doing other four CDs
7) go find others to play
8) open each and wipe CD with silicone treated cloth
9) brush off CD with small brush
10) insert
10a) 10b) 10c) 10d) repeat 7) 8) 9) 10) four more times
11) close drawer
12) press play
13) sit down

For LP playback:
(I touch five boxes, plus media items. no remotes)
1) Move main volume control to useful position.
2) move selector to correct place for LP play
3) turn on phono box
4) after is goes to green, flip off mute
5) take weight off cover of TT
6) take cover off Kuzma Stabi Stogi S TT
7) flip switch on power regulator for TT
8) flip front switch to 33 to start TT rotating
9) Chose an LP
10) slip LP out of cover
10a) lay down cover
11) slip LP out of inner sleeve
11a lay down inner sleeve
12) look at LP: Clean. not clean?
12a Clean proceed.. (not clean is another dozen steps not added.)
13) place LP on TT platter
14) place clamp on LP
15) pick up brush for stylus
15a) use brush on stylus
16) tap brush on sticky tape to remove yuck
17) place stylus brush down
18) click counter to count stylus hours
19) pick up Stylast bottle
20) open Stylast bottle
21) brush stylus with brush from Stylast bottle
22) close Stylast bottle
23) put back Stylast bottle
24) move arm over record start
25) release lift lever
26) hover to watch stylus hit LP
27) Sit down

As for the rest of the ops requests.. well I am not gonna. LOL

Elizabeth:
Can understand your reticence; you don't after all, have much time left after this process...
I can turn my system on with one button . I set it up this way so my technically bankrupt wife can use it . I keep all my digital gear on all the time as well as my SS phono stage . My DIY passive AVC volume control has a 12 volt trigger button to turn on 2 Niles AC3 switched outlets that turn on my VTL main and Crown sub amp .  Like folkfreak said wait for tube warm up grab the Ipad and away you go .To play a record I flip a switch on the TT power supply  Â