Let us XXXXX that statement "Was to the trumpet, what Bird was to the alto".
Frogman,it goes beyond personal taste; it involves whose taste is most concurrent with "the street" meaning aficionados from New York, Chicago, and St. Louis, in regard specifically to "Hard Bop".
There is no way we can can put this current discussion under that big "amorphous" tent called "jazz". Lee Morgan almost became a subject unto himself; his blazing solos with Blakey yelling "Git mad!" behind him. The artistic merit of "Search For The New Land", the music of which could easily be turned into choreography that told a deep story of a lost people searching for a new "Spiritual Land".
The more I search for Lee Morgan, the more I find; I ran out of my search for Miles Davis sometime ago; it's impossible to tell where personal taste ends, and some kind of objectivity begins. However, I will say that I knew people who knew Miles, and loved him like a brother, but had a different opinion of a lot of his most current music.
Would you have been in "Slugs" every night to see and hear Lee Morgan, if it had been convenient? I would be willing to bet that "Nica" went there, and let the wine heads guard her Bentley.
There is no way we can, nor do I want it to be an objective discussion; either you heard Lee's blazing solos like I did, or you didn't.
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Ahmad Jamal has always been a very advanced artist, that's why Miles liked him so much. "Extensions" is a tune that could have been done yesterday, but he originated it in the 60's, that's just one of the reasons Miles liked him. I saw him in Chicago, and had the opportunity to have a few drinks and conversation with Frank Gant, his drummer, after the set; this was in the 80's, and Frank told me they had tickets to Japan, he said they couldn't make it by only appearing in this country; Japan and Europe were a necessity as opposed to a choice. Complete review of Ahmad Jamal in the works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0G1D0j0zLQEnjoy the music. |
I'll begin my review by sharing with you what "Wiki" has to say about Mr. Jamal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_JamalA good friend of mine managed to be on the set of "Live At The Pershing" in 58. He was 18 (same age as me), I don't know how he managed it, since we both lived in St. Louis, and too young to be on that set legally; but made he did and you can hear his "donkey laugh" on that LP. Every time I play it and hear his "donkey laugh", I remember Hank. I'm sure everybody has that LP in their collection; after it came out "Poinciana" was so popular that you would have to live on a different planet not to have heard it, but just in case; here it is to refresh your memory. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev-3kIXlEGAGet set for a long ride because I'm going to start in the late 50's and come up to the present. That's all for now folks. Enjoy the music. |
That's a marvelous suggestion Alex, could you bring us up to 58.
Thank you.
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Frogman I've been trying to figure out what you're trying to say in regard to reviewing an artist; are you saying review every record that artist has made?
Alex, do you think you have posted the most significant recordings made before 58?
Are there any more suggestions before I get too deeply involved in this review?
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Musicians make their marks and move on, Charley Parker was an exception, I don't see music as a series of building blocks from one generation to the next, as in electronics, but for the most part musicians make their mark and move on. As outstanding as this music is, I don't see how it fits in the context of musicians who went before them. What did Miles contribute to this? I just can not get my mind wrapped around your question. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVXvNaMC3FIEnjoy the music. |
Alex, we'll rely on you for anything significant before 58. He recorded quite a bit in 58, and I don't know how much of it is redundant; meaning some of the tunes were recorded earlier, he might have decided to re-do them. That's the case we have already ran into regarding Michelzay's choice of albums. Next on my list is "Portfolio Of Ahmad Jamal".
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What's up Rok? When I said "You can keep today's listen to yourself" I was hoping to get you into the artist that's in the spotlight, but evidently Ahmad Jamal is not your cup of tea; in the book of Job, it is said "This to shall pass", meaning it won't last forever, and we will put an artist of your choosing in the spotlight after Ahmad Jamal.
In regard to "Today's listen", what I really meant is that I can't comment on it and focus on Ahmad Jamal at the same time, but there is nothing wrong with you posting it.
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Finally we're into 1959 (that was a very good year) "The Piano Scene of Ahmad Jamal" is the featured album. BTW here are some comments by other musicians about Ahmad:
The Musicians Speak
"When people say Jamal influenced me a lot, they're right..."
Miles Davis.
"Ahmad Jamal is Number One with me!"
Shirley Horn
"Ahmad approaches each song as a composition in itself. He doesn't allow the groove to become stagnant. He'll go into an interlude that changes the mood and then he'll go out of the interlude into a different groove that's even more swinging than the first was. He always gives the impression of having something in reserve. 'Don't shoot everything in one tune and play 50 choruses or it'll all sound the same,' he told me."
Julian "Cannonball" Adderley
"The space that Ahmad leaves in his playing creates a tension that captivates his audience...I tried to practice a trill that he makes look so easy, but I gave up!"
Harold Mabern
"Ahmad is a master at knowing how to draw the ultimate from a musician. He can fit his entire thing--something like Duke--to make you sound a hundred times better. Ahmad is a rhythmic innovator. He never settled for the trend at the time, the straight ahead jazz thing. He always intermixed 'exotic times or feeling' into jazz--rhumbas,tangos--he was able to do all these things and still make it all sound like jazz. I think Ahmad is still developing!"
Vernell Fournie
These are comments by other musicians about Ahmad's music, that we can listen for.
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This is what "The Piano Scene Of Ahmad Jamal" looks like according to "Discogs" Jamal – The Piano Scene Of Ahmad Jamal Label: Epic – LN 3631 Format: Vinyl, LP, Album, Mono Country: US Released: 1959 Genre: Jazz Style: Tracklist A1 Old Devil Moon A2 Ahmad's Blues A3 Poinciana A4 Billy Boy A5 Will You Still Be Mine A6 Pavanne B1 Crazy He Calls Me B2 The Surrey With The Fringe On Top B3 Aki And Ukthay B4 Slaughter On 10th Avenue B5 A Gal In Calico B6 It's Easy To Remember Now it has become apparent to me, why I didn't buy Ahmad's albums every year; by this time, I think I had all those cuts on other LP's; although I might not have "Slaughter on 10 Avenue". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M78p4p0GShQEnjoy the music. |
Frogman, as a result of so much enthusiasm, I most certainly will not be covering "Ahmad Jamal" record by record, year by year; I will decide what I think is significant, review the best, and leave the rest.
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Since there is so little interest in Ahmad Jamal, I have chosen to let there be a beginning and an end to the Ahmad Jamal story; someone else can fill in the middle, or start on another artist. This ends with one of my favorite artists Mr. Yusef Lateef, and Ahmad Jamal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8DGIqgRF7QAhmad and Yusef is a 2 CD set, which means you get your monies worth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ643ujAf5EThis concludes the Ahmad Jamal story. Enjoy the music. |
Acman, I'm glad you explained that; some of us are retired and we don't have an excuse, other than who knows for what reason, we just didn't want to respond.
As you stated, he has gotten a lot better, but we're talking about music, and maybe not "jazz jazz". I have no intentions of trying to explain what I just said.
I know this; I love listening to his music, which has evolved, as opposed to changing, and in order to enjoy it, you must listen with nothing else in mind; the more you listen to his current music, the more you will like it.
Any audiophile with a good setup will certainly appreciate his current music more than ever, because he pays close attention to recording quality.
If I get feedback to continue, I'll pick up where I left off.
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Jafant I don't even know if I can remember how many copies of that record "Live At The Pershing" I have worn out and replaced; besides sounding good, it has so much sentimental value.
59 was such a good year, I don't know if I'll ever catch up to all the good music made in that year.
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Well aficionados, apparently we have lost two constant members of our esteemed group who were most knowledgeable on the subject of "Jazz", for reasons unknown; but still, move on we must, and move on we will. Miles said Ahmad influenced him more than any other musician, therefore we will listen to how, and why this is so when we hear Ahmads music. Rather than point out specific tunes, I prefer to compare Miles's music, and Ahmad's in general; they both preferred fewer notes, rather than more, they both used space between the notes, and we know this is the way Ahmad played from the beginning. Most of the music we have been listening to has included horns and a lots of notes; frankly, I have gotten tired of "toot, toot, toot". Ahmad is a welcome change for me. I last touched upon a compilation of the trio, and I'm going to go back to that and pick out my favorite cuts on that compilation, and you can post yours. Here is "New Rumba" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykem8mJ5tioNext is "It Ain't Necessarily So" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4Dwd2jL-mwEnjoy the music. |
Ghosthouse, you mean "Schubert" don't you. I believe he was over 80 and now that you mention it, I haven't noticed him in quite a while. From what I could discern, he lived around Minneapolis.
I remember, he mentioned that he was not as swift as he used to be, which was not in reference to his physical health, so he might be OK and just quit posting.
Tell me, what do you think about the links I posted. AJ changed Miles thinking about his music, Miles began to appreciate space, and the philosophy of less is more. ( somebody on Agon advised me about the speaker I was designing, and told me I needed to drop off one of the drivers, and sure enough, less turned out to be more; the speakers I'm listening to now, have one non functioning driver)
I will most certainly check those albums out this evening if they are on "you tube". Yes Miles bragged about TW a lot.
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Ghosthouse, I saw him live in Chicago, and he really cooked, I mean he doesn't always play with space; he can play a lot of notes when he wants to. If you think about it, his music in your listening room could be quite entertaining, but almost boring on a live set; that's why he set the house on fire; especially in Chicago, his adopted home town.
Frogman, I remember Schubert getting messed around, and he felt Audiogon should have been more helpful in resolving it. That's the last time I remember him posting.
Whatever the reason for your absence, I'm glad I was wrong, because a professional musician's interpretation of the music is always more definitive.
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Ahmad Jamal "The Awakening" is the album I'm reviewing today. Ghosthouse, I believe you are already familiar with this album; since it has such a high rating, I'm reviewing it for the rest of the aficionados. According to "Sputnic Music", review by Tyler Fisher; if there was ever a man that never received the credit he deserved, that man was Ahmad Jamal. Jamal played jazz piano differently from everyone else. He had the classical chops to play all over the place and use his jazz knowledge to run across the piano with all kinds of different scales, but Jamal was smarter than that. He knew that 32nd note runs for 8 minutes straight would get boring and tiring. He used space and silence so well that it inspired much of Miles Davis’ playing. However, the world gives Davis the credit for revolutionizing that style of playing. The general public doesn’t even list Jamal in the top ten jazz pianists of all time. Obviously, that means nothing to Jamal, as displayed in his track title I Love Music. That’s really all that matters, and that mindset shines through brilliantly on The Awakening. To know a musician, is to know and love his music; if you know a musician, and idolize his music, it's a good start to a friendship. A musician and his music are one; although that sounds like a simple statement, it takes an aficionado to understand the depth of that statement. It's time to listen to some music; lets begin with the title tune, "The Awakening", this is "classic" Ahmad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az5bBFWAI8I Lets go with "Stolen Moments" from that same album. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=274HuIch2GYThere you have it, now I'll wait for your take on this album. Enjoy the music. |
Ghosthouse, you can apologize to the KJ fans for me as well, my listening, and his playing never got in sync. As far as I'm concerned, it's good to be polite, but it's not necessary to go in depth in regard to why you could live without an artist. Some disagree with that.
I'm going to proceed from the awakening and go forward; as a matter of fact, "The Awakening" is an album that I can get into and stay awhile; consequently, I wont be jumping to the next thing just yet.
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Brand new jazz review Julius Hemphill, "Dogon A. D."; this is my kind of music. Before I get into the music, let me share what I know about the Dogon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogon_peopleIt has been claimed that the Dogon have rituals honoring a planet or star not yet discovered; how far out can you get? Here's the music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWkma6Uzc0wI like to go into a deep state of meditation and let my imagination run wild; with the Dogon people worshiping an unseen star, plus this music, you can take interplanetary travel on this one. Enjoy the music. |
Ghosthouse, I distinctly remember Schubert say he was slipping. The reason I mention this is because I'm only a few years younger than Schubert, and it's better for a person to recognize that he is slipping, than not recognize it; I hope I recognize it, because if you live long enough it's going to happen.
My mother in law is all the way gone, we can't let her out of the house by her self, and she always has an appointment she has to keep.
Ghosthouse, we discuss almost everything on this thread; now back to the music.
From my point of view, KJ plays a fusion of classical and jazz; call it "Classi- Jazz"; that sounds better than "cerebral- jazz". Maybe only smart people like Keith, and I don't quite make that category.
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I listened to "Stolen Moments" which is a tune I'm familiar with, and Ahmad really captures the beauty of that tune. Every familiar tune that I like, I like it even better the way he does it. It's amazing how much music he gets out of bass, drums and piano.
His style has not changed radically since the beginning, and this is 1970 when Miles is into "Bitches Brew", and every body else is in to fusion; that lets you know how constant Ahmad is.
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Acman, the suit totally eludes me, I'll let somebody else take that one.
Bass – John Hurd*
Drums – Frank Gant
Engineer – Neil Brody
Guitar – Calvin Keys
Keyboards – Ahmad Jamal
Percussion – Selden Newton*
I noticed he's sticking with Frank Gant on drums; I'm not familiar with the other artists. I call this nice easy listening, standard Ahmad Jamal. As I remember, the ladies always liked Ahmad Jamal, and if you think of a couple when you listen to this, it will sound better.
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Ghosthouse, you're one of the regulars, you could never overstay your welcome.
Remember back when I said getting this thread to go in a straight line was like herding cats; one cat wants to review every single record by Ahmad Jamal, and another cat that doesn't even know who Ahmad Jamal is.
How was the Caribbean Rok? I can see that you got "jet-lag", and I know it takes time to get back together after sailing the islands; I bet you even picked up the accent "Mon".
Back here we are still reviewing Ahmad Jamal. We can review anybody you choose next, and we will all contribute to whoever that artist may be.
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Without a doubt, this is the best way to proceed. I'm learning things that I thought I knew by each artist that we review.
The bottom line function of this thread is to add the very best music to our collection. Once upon a time I thought new music to my collection, meant the latest music, but now new music to my collection, means the best music, no matter when it was recorded.
By reviewing the best artists, we are able to select their best music, no matter when it was recorded; our present system is working much better than I had anticipated.
Rok, the purpose of "you tube" is to help us discover new music that we didn't even know existed; if you don't know it exists, you couldn't possibly have it in your collection. By only posting music that's in your collection, you are defeating the purpose of "you tube", which is to help you and everyone else to discover music that is not in their collection.
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With Ahmad Jamal, you can decide which aspect of his piano you like best; light and whimsical, or really banging, and go with that. Right now I'm listening to "Poinciana", from the album "Freeflight", and it's interestingly different; so different, that I will get that CD if it's available. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQtpRRVk6jA&index=2&list=PLf54dkJsWJ3P7R5HJPkKXGYdbEda_JtpIThe way Ahmad gets so much out of the same tune, reminds me of "homeboy" Eddie Fisher, and the way he got so much out of "The Third Cup". I went to see him live every time he appeared at a place called "Mothers". He could work that jam around so many different ways, that you could listen to that one tune all night. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuAQFFOuy3cEnjoy the music. |
Rok, maybe you could help me with my review. "Freelight" was the last album I posted, it was recorded in 1971. We can go forward from there, and you select what you think is worth posting.
This is discography from Wikipedia
1971: Freeflight (Impulse!)
1972: Outertimeinnerspace (Impulse!)
1973: Ahmad Jamal '73 (20th Century)
1974: Jamalca (20th Century)
1974: Jamal Plays Jamal (20th Century)
1975: Genetic Walk (20th Century)
1976: Steppin' Out with a Dream (20th Century)
1976: Recorded Live at Oil Can Harry's (Catalyst)
1978: One (20th Century)
1979: Intervals (20th Century)
1980: Live at Bubba's (Digital Master)
1980: Night Song (Motown)
1981: Ahmad Jamal & Gary Burton In Concert
1982: Goodbye Mr. Evans (Shubra)
1985: Digital Works (Atlantic)
1985: Live at the Montreal Jazz Festival 1985 (Atlantic)
1986: Rossiter Road (Atlantic)
1987: Crystal (Atlantic)
1989: Pittsburgh (Atlantic)
1992: Live in Paris 1992 (Birdology)
1993: Chicago Revisited (Telarc)
1994: I Remember Duke, Hoagy & Strayhorn (Telarc)
1994: Ahmad Jamal with The Assai Quartet (Roesch)
1994: Ahmad Jamal at Home (Roesch)
1995: The Essence Part One (Birdology)
1995: Big Byrd: The Essence Part 2 (Birdology)
1996: Ahmad Jamal a Paris (Birdology)
1997: Nature: The Essence Part Three (Birdology)
2000: Picture Perfect
2001: Ahmad Jamal à l'Olympia
2003: In Search of Momentum
2005: After Fajr
2008: It's Magic
2008: Poinciana – One Night Only
2009: A Quiet Time
2012: Blue Moon (Jazzbook Records )
2013: Saturday Morning (Jazzbook Records)
2014: Ahmad Jamal featuring Yusef Lateef
Simply look up the LP on "you tube" and post what you think is significant.
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Mark Masters "Blue Skylight" received 4 stars for performance and 4 for sonics in this month's issue of "Stereophile". I'm listening to it as I'm typing this; I like it, it's reminiscent of bands I've liked in the past. I even like the title "Blue Skylight"; it evokes memories of "The City"; I have come to believe a city that is romanticized in my memory, for this is "City" music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwxtbzrrVQw&list=PLTaU_hpEJweUt9LE-yu7hw609Nu8GiJ8oI will most certainly buy this album. Enjoy the music. |
Strateahed, your evaluation of Lee Morgan and Miles was the best anyone could have written; while Miles couldn't "out blow" Lee, he conquered "time", which is something relatively few "jazz" musicians conquered; there are so many Miles Davis's that you can have a small collection based on any one of them.
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Strateahed, Somehow I don't get this statement, " As Frogman has said, the removal of Davis would have changed the development of jazz much more than the other two, and I think this would have been true even if Morgan and Brown had lived as long as Miles."
Beyond Diz and Bird, I don't quite get this development of jazz. Jazz musicians I've known were such staunch individualists, that I couldn't hear how they were affected by Miles one way or the other.
It could be said that Miles led jazz in "fusion", but not all jazz musicians were into fusion. The more I think about Frogman's and Learsfool's statement, the less I get it; I need help on this one.
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Strateahed, I'm from St. Louis, and I've met just about everybody in Miles family. The people who loved Miles and his music in the beginning, still felt unwavering love for Miles the person, but privately, they felt he could leave some of his new music on the doorstep when he came to visit them, which is something they would never admit publicly. Miles brother and I have similar tastes in jazz, and his taste couldn't change to accommodate some of Miles music after "Bitches Brew".
I have seen and discussed things from the very opposite point of view as you presented. But when you think about it, if your brother were a musician, and fell to banging on garbage cans, you would love him no less. My point is, I have known a number of Miles "original" fans who have a negative view of his music after "Bitches Brew"; Miles knew this would happen after he made radical changes in his music.
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Rok, why are you only posting the albums in your collection. "You Tube" is like a library of music that they want everybody to post.
In the beginning, some artists objected when their records were posted without their permission, but after it was revealed that resulted in sales of their old records that everybody had forgotten, they no longer objected.
Since it is illegal to copy for sale, the artists are not losing anything by exposure through "You Tube"; as a matter of fact, they are gaining sales they otherwise would not have.
Please follow the script, we have already reviewed those records.
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Frogman, Miles continued to gain new audiences, but I believe this discography will certify when he left his original audience behind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis_discographyMy most current CD's by Miles are nothing but dust catchers, but before then was "Live Evil", which was heavy fusion, and then "On The Corner". His sense of aesthetics left me behind, and I found other artists to be more pleasing. I suppose if I had listened more intently I could have gotten where he was coming from, but I refuse to put forth a lot of effort in regard to understanding and enjoying music; either it grabs me or it doesn't. Why don't you post the most current music by Miles that you like. |
Rok, that was 24 Feb 13; that was over 3 years ago, I ran through my collection of "Jazz" a little while ago.
This is the only thorough way to go, and not miss any winners.
The last time anybody posted was Thursday; we could have been through with Ahmad, and gone to someone else.
If you think this is a bad idea, we can consider Ahmad concluded, and not do it anymore; how's that?
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Acman, that is so beautiful! Believe it or not, I have met a number of sax players whose last name was coleman; no not that one, he's older, they were younger; just a strange coincident.
Ahmad was really digging that sax, I noted the expression on his face. This is an unusual trio for him.
You know he was going to have to appear at Lincoln Center.
What separates Ahmad from many other musicians is his sense of "aesthetics"; every body wants it, and would like to have it, but not everybody got it; he just seems to make all of his music pretty.
I cut him a loose after one bad album; a big mistake on my part because he got better with age.
If we are going to review one artist, we should all focus on that artist. Maybe we should simply erase that method of moving forward from this forum.
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Acman, I have fewer of Ahmads albums than any other major jazz artist, if I only reviewed what I have in my collection, we would have been through, but the object of this thread is to add new music, and it has functioned quite well for me. Since I have so few of Ahmad's albums, I will continue to search through "you tube" and share what I find with you guys who don't believe you should use "you tube". The man is forever changing, and always interesting, and he gets the most out of any musicians that accompany him; as is illustrated on this cut. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMS9SGtIy6gEnjoy the music. |
Officially the Ahmad Jamal review is over; Acman, and me simply realized we have an "Ahmad Jamal" gap in our collections that needs filling in. Feel free to post whatever you like, and we'll review it.
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Acman, I'm following through on closing that big space in my collection that's missing Ahmad Jamal. I've got "'Blue Moon" ordered. I read Ahmad's booking schedule, and it included Tokyo, Antwerp, Marciac France, Vannes France, Marseille, Bangalore India, Paris,BMW jazz festival in Rio, and Sao Paulo, Brazil. He's out of this country more than he's in it; that let's you know who does, and who does not appreciate jazz; Ahmad Jamal for sure. There are so many albums left to review, that it's going to take a while to complete this task. Here is Ahmad enjoying life in Paris. It's for sure he is always doing something different; when I saw him, he had a guy on steel drums with him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcnQID8Y954Enjoy the music. |
There are many reasons why this thread has lasted so long: one of them is because I have posted some of the best jazz many have ever heard; that's why the view is so high as compared to postings; another is the unwavering support by Roc, Frogman, Acman, and the rest of the aficionados. Another reason why there are so few posts, is most people who view, do not consider themselves "Aficionados"
Let us look at the definition of "aficionado"; an ardent supporter or devotee: a jazz aficionado. That's plain and simple; also, someone who is very interested in and enthusiastic about a particular subject.
Without ardent supporters, and enthusiastic "aficionados", this thread will not last.
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Welcome, rpeluso; if you are not an aficionado, you're at the right place to become one and enjoy good jazz in the process. If you are an aficionado, we welcome you're best contributions. Simply find them on "you tube", and post them here.
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Rok, you are one of the chief deciders on this thread; why didn't you object to Jamal before I got started.
Frogman posted a list to chose from, and I mentioned that I was tired of horns. No decision had been made at that time; you could have chosen someone else. I was trying to set up some guide lines for the review, and Michelzay, who is not one of the "chief deciders" suggested Ahmad Jamal. I didn't start the review until after that, plus Frogman was trying to decide on guide lines that I never understood.
Alex mentioned that I had skipped a lot of territory when I started in 58. This was because Michelzay's "The Ahmad Trio Vol 4" was in 58. Then Alex went back to 51, 52, and 55; I guess he was going to bring us up to 58.
***** There are many reasons why this thread has lasted so long: one of them is because I have posted some of the best jazz many have ever heard; *****
Rok, I'll take that to bed with me tonight and sleep on it, modest or not.
The purpose of the review is to cover and discover what we may have missed (I discovered that I missed a lot)
One of the problems with this thread is that, too many posts are directed at, and posted for the benefit of the 'viewers' , and not directed at their fellow posters.
I'll leave that paragraph for others to cover.
This is not about who is, or who is not the better musician, this is about discovery of what we don't have, that we wished we had in our collections.
I notice there was no mention of the music I posted. Maybe one of the reasons we don't get new aficionados, is because who wants to be in a "Huh bub" like this.
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Rok, I was just thinking, and I want an honest answer to this question; have you ever heard any better jazz in your life, than you have since I started this thread?
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Schubert, I listened to her every Saturday morning; that's when she came on here, and I don't recall any more interesting conversations about jazz; she could keep you so into her conversation, that you never left till it was all over.
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As I have stated a number of times before; "you tube" enables us to get all the music we missed; I thought I had everything recorded by Yusef Lateef in this time period, but I don't have this particular record. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YoapuIvv_4Yusef Lateef is an artist I admired from the first time I heard him; that's because he was so exotic and unusual, even the instruments he plays are unusual; flute, oboe, bamboo flute, shenai, and argol. Enjoy the music. |
When I saw Ahmad live in Chicago, he was working with a guy on steel drums. Here's "Poinciana", but with steel drums, it's a lot different. That's the thing about Ahmad; he can get so many different sounds out of the same tune, that it's new all over again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHpaSAXANqUEnjoy the music. |
That was the same guy I saw him with in Chicago, Othello Molineaux; he spent much time with Jaco Pastorius. I see he also worked with Eliane Elius, the lovely Brazilian vocalist; that sounds like a beautiful combination. The people went wild over Othello on steel drums in Chicago. I see he appears on an album "Nature" by Ahmad; that should be interesting, and a must have for me before I even hear it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVnCnmIrDgUEnjoy the music. |
rpeluso, why talk to yourself, when you can talk to us? Since you have been watching this thread for a very long time, you've seen it's ups and downs.
Initially this thread was designed to help "Jazz Aficionados" to acquire new music, and enjoy the music in other aficionados collections, but occasionally this aficionado trolley jumps it's tracks and goes off to who knows where. Now I'm trying to get it back on the "jazz track".
I'm sure you have a good jazz collection that you would like to share with us; that's what we have in common.
As far as old; that's what happens when you live too long, but the other option is not at all pretty.
Why don't you tell us a little about your favorite music and musicians.
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Acman, initially some music was on 'you tube' without the artists permission, and that music was taken down, but after the artists discovered, with, or without their permission, it was beneficial to them, because the artists have so many records that were forgotten long ago, and without "you tube" it's for sure they would stay forgotten, plus they have some really boss records that were forgotten.
My point of view is quite simple; reviewing records that I have not heard before, then deciding whether or not the record is worth writing a review on, and then writing the review is work, and if this work was spread around, it would be fun.
Alex, and Rok, never stated their reasons for not wanting to review records that aren't in their collections?
You're right about Ahmad dipping his big toe into fusion, but didn't stay long. That suit was a dandy allright; didn't look like his style, but what do I know.
Ahmad slipped a time or two just like the rest of the artists; I noticed "Jamalca" in my collection, but I didn't think too much of it. None of the rest of the records waiting for review are in my collection.
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