Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10

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pryso,

I'm jealous to say the least!!… Miles, Coltrane, Pops, Cannonball, Blakey!!..  that's quite a resume you have of concerts you've attended.

IMHO, the first Miles electric years 1968-75 were awesome. Do you remember if he played one long jam before and after the intermission or were they broke down into songs?
nsp,

Which SM live disc would you recommend if I had to choose just one?

Nice link to Alvin Lee and co. playing Hey Joe. Alvin's and TYA's live recording releases were always more intense then any of the studio releases. My favorite studio session is Cricklewood Green.
I was thinking about Orpheus last night he has not posted for a few days I hope he is ok. 

I am surprised no one mentioned Duke Ellington at Newport 1956 as a favorite live recording. Definitely on my list!
skyscraper mentioned a personal favorite from Gato Barbieri.


Here is one I like: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7aG0FUCGQU


 "Latin Free Jazz" with some harmonics merged in at times 

One of my "go to discs"   Krupa and Rich:


Krupa and Rich and look at the other players!

On this CD reissue, drummers Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich only actually play together on one of the seven songs, a lengthy rendition of "Bernie's Tune" that has a six-minute "drum battle." Krupa and Rich do perform two songs apiece with a remarkable all-star band consisting of trumpeters Dizzy Gillespie and Roy Eldridge, tenors Illinois Jacquet and Flip Phillips, pianist Oscar Peterson, guitarist Herb Ellis, and bassist Ray Brown. Each of the principals get some solo space, giving this release more variety than one might expect. In addition there are two bonus cuts from a Buddy Rich date that feature the drummer with trumpeters Thad Jones and Joe Newman, tenors Ben Webster and Frank Wess, Oscar Peterson, Ray Brown, and rhythm guitarist Freddie Green. Excellent music overall if not quite essential
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e75c21Nfav0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnyRUIgOKLA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be0kO8aJ6B8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoCuRJzhpLA




frogman,

As a big Stan Getz fan myself, I just want to say if you don't have the 1958 Cal Tjader and Stan Getz sextet recording (I posted 2 songs from it upthread), go get it!
Orpheus,
 Cal Tjader is an excellent vibraphone player that is often overlooked. My favorite disc of his is the Cal Tjader Stan Getz Sextet. It is from a 1958 recording session and features one of the earliest record dates for bassist Scott La Faro and drummer Billy Higgins. Here are a couple of songs from the session:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALs8bfhB6B0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcI9pl17xm8


 
frogman & nsp,

Great Getz links. A couple were new to me. The KC FB BB is new to me. I found the Lock/Griffin recording here:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I062LV2/?coliid=I1YDGBM0NFRWMC&colid=2MJEFFF7AFXNS&psc=0
No disc available just Mp3.

Manteca with Dizzy I believe is on this:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000H9HWR8/?coliid=I2KP1JS2NFKVTY&colid=2MJEFFF7AFXNS&psc=0&re...

I guess a lot of the KC FB BB records are out of print. I did find this though and a couple of other discs but that's it for the listings on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003ZDXV7I/?coliid=I1DONXFZNXWUD4&colid=2MJEFFF7AFXNS&psc=0&re...





Some great playing on this album by Jeep and Wild Bill Davis on the organ:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUe650EIK78

Les Spann: guitar and flute!
Sam Jones: bass
Louis Hayes: drums

I have all of the Johnny Hodges/Wild Bill Davis recordings and the newer remastered discs sound great.

Grant Green and Kenny Burrell play guitar on 2 of the discs

frogman, That Ray Charles & Betty Carter rendition is fantastic as is the Carly Simon version posted by Orpheus.

That song seems to have a lot of beautiful renditions
Thank you Orpheus for the Caterina Valente links.

She certainly had a beautiful voice!
Orpheus,
I like the first link of a younger Nina Simone. Her vocals are ok on that one. Her piano playing was always good..


The second link she is older and it shows. You can hear it in her singing. Piano is still the same.

Throughout her entire career Simone's vocals never really did much for me. Just never grabbed me deep in my gut like Sarah Vaughn or Julie London.  I found her voice to be a little to much on the rough side. I'm not sure why but her voice does not make me feel subdued and mystified.


Simone is always listed in the top 10 or 5 on any top 50 female jazz vocalists you can google online and that says a lot about her prowess as a singer.


That being said, everybody hears things differently and on my list she would be higher up.

It’s a voice we’re supposed to hate. Gloomy, uninviting, and hoarse. Overpowering and booming in the low register, rocky and rasping when high. It’s often unstable, fluctuating within both pitch and timbre. Yet it’s these imperfections that make a voice so beautifully Nina Simone....Prescilla Bajomo.


Entire text here:http://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/30957/1/nina-simone-s-complex-voice




John Coltrane, Sonny Fortune, Dizzy Gillespie, and Percy Heath are all alumni of the Granoff School of Music, also located in Philly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granoff_School_of_Music


nsp, Thanks for the SM live recommendation.

mary_jo, I posted that link for our resident Nina Simone lover and either he did not notice it or did and was unimpressed. In case he did not notice here again is the link:

http://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/30957/1/nina-simone-s-complex-voice

frogman, That Pres tune is beautiful!
mary_jo, Chet Baker was way cool!

His vocals are ok and in those ballads he sings I can hear the emotional torment through his voice. Maybe it had something to do with his demons who continued to haunt him on and off until his death. He lost his battle with heroin in 1988.


I recommend the Chet Baker documentary "Lets Get Lost"
https://www.amazon.com/Lets-Get-Lost-Chet-Baker/dp/B00EDR5MTK/ref=tmm_dvd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&am...=

Ethan Hawke portrays Baker in the 2015 film "Born To Be Blue"



frogman, I'm sorry to say that I could not make it. family circumstances have tied me up this weekend.  
Thanks frogman. Your background in the music industry is a plus for me as far as learning a thing or two.

I would like to think I know a little bit about "how to listen to jazz music" after the last 15 years where have I listened to jazz almost exclusively with other genres taking a backseat. Not having any musical background of picking up an instrument other then listening closely. Sheet music looks like Egyptian hieroglyphs to me.

I still have a long way to go.

I was thinking about getting this book:

https://www.amazon.com/How-Listen-Jazz-Ted-Gioia/dp/0465093493/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qi...

I have been active 6 months now on this thread. I know Joey Alexander must have already been mentioned somewhere on this thread before I started posting. This kid is amazing. He not only has total command of his instrument, but he has that feel of interplaying correctly with musicians around him in a small or big band setting that usually comes with age and experience

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpwmTGUflUM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP1hnzWSTFg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTsgoNg5hlo


Opinions anyone?

frogman I'm definitely ordering that book.

mary_jo I listen to jazz all by my lonesome. Other then the ballads, my wife thinks of it as "noise"

nsp, Any book recommendations would be greatly appreciated.


alex, I received your email and replied as well. 
Thanks all who posted Lester Young recommendations/links.

For those who dig multi channel SACD's there is a new quad mix of Bitches Brew. I believe it is the first ever multi channel mix of that fantastic album. It is a Japanese pressing released on 8 August 2018.

Mine is on the way. I suggest, if you like multi channel formats, you order it ASAP before they run out of stock and the ridiculous price gouging starts.

I am going to listen to it this Friday night in its entirety and give an honest review here for those on the fence about buying it.

You can purchase it direct from CD Japan here:

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/SICJ-10008

nsp thanks for the book recommendations. I have a Direct Stream Digital SACD (2 channel stereo) from Mobile Fidelity. The sonics are awesome to put it mildly. Its a limited edition numbered disc so get it fast here:

https://www.musicdirect.com/optical-disc/miles-davis-bitches-brew-numbered-limited-edition-hybrid-2-...

I would buy the Mobile Fidelity stereo SACD and not the Japanese multi channel quad if I had a dedicated 2 channel set up.
I just became a Sheila Jordan fan!

I already ordered that 62 Blue Note session!
mary-jo, That Srayhorn selection was awesome! I really dig  Ozzie Bailey's vocals on that song. Perfect.

The quote by Fernando Pessoa is very thought provoking.
frogman, Shorter's Speak No Evil was one of the first jazz albums I bought way back when. I had the privilege of seeing Wayne live at Town Hall NYC around 5 years ago.


Although the set he played that night was almost exclusively Avant Guard I enjoyed it very much as did the company I was with. After the show I thought my friends were going to assault me on pressing them to see Wayne as he is an all time great as a player and composer and even I was surprised at the selected tunes for the session.


However, each and every one of them were in awe and thanked me for suggesting they buy a ticket!
Welcome back Orpheus I hope you are feeling well and enjoy your Thanksgiving.

nsp upon receiving the Mingus Detroit sessions could you please post a review here?
Here is my review on the August 18 Japanese release of Miles Davis' Bitches Brew quad pressing

WOW!

Great separation of instruments. It is just as good if not better then the Rhino Chicago quadio mix box set which I also have.


I like my multi channel discs to sound "multi channel" and I am very critical of this.
 frogman, Fierce is an understatement!  That song is from the one and only album that Pope played on with the Prince Lasha group.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EAC3UG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc...


And thanks for the Nash ballad. Nash is new to me.
frogman you left two great sax players off your list of the senior sax players and they are, IMHO, two of the best tenors 

Odean Pope and Pharoah Sanders 

An excerpt from an article written in 2001 about Pope, who turned 80 this past October 24:

Odean Pope spends his time in the relentless pursuit of truth as codified in the fiery scales of a searing free-jazz sax solo. Indeed, 10 minutes into a phone interview with this obscure Philadelphia-based tenor sax player, it becomes clear that this is a man who is not a mere musician in the traditional sense of the word, but a committed spiritual seeker thirsting for sacred knowledge inside a swirl of polytonality. "To me, music is a universal thing," says Pope.

An excerpt from an newspaper article written in 2006 about Sanders, who turned 78 this past October 13:

After moving back to the East Bay, Sanders joined Coltrane's radical "free" group and stayed in it until Coltrane's death in 1967.

Here, however, is what gets lost in the conventional retelling: Sanders did not adopt Coltrane's tone -- Coltrane adopted Sanders'. Their styles are compatible, but who rubbed off on whom? It's clear: By the late '50s, Coltrane was up to his shoulders in pentatonic scales and minor modes, pioneering approaches to harmony. Sanders? Somewhere else completely.

Both tenors use overlapping rhythms and strong dissonance, an approach Sanders continued to refine into the 1970s. One of his favorite spots for it was the Keystone Korner in North Beach, which before closing in 1983 had incense on the stage, mandalas on the walls and lines out the door. A clear fit.


I saw Odean Pope, Pharoah Sanders, and James Carter live at the Blue Note NYC in 2014 and the three of them brought down the house playing solos and together. The honks, squeals, and screeches blended in perfectly with a harmonic rythm that only these 3 tenors, IMHO, could pull off with justice. One of the best, if not the best, concerts I ever saw.




chazro,

I have listened to Shorter's new recording but do not own it. The music is terrific but the 50 dollar plus price tag for 3 CD's is ridiculous. I don't see the relevance of a graphic novel and colorful presentation to justify the price. If it was a limited edition, with just 2500 in this format available I could relate.

The right thing to do would have been to release it as a limited deluxe set of 2500 - 5000 copies and a mass produced 3 disc music only set for half the price.

I am going to wait a year and see if they re-release it in a budget format. The mp3 is 15 bucks but the quality of sound would not be up to my standards.
Jeremy Pelt new release 22 February pre-ordered

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07M7Q4MTB/?coliid=I38ENCJIM3M6EP&colid=2MJEFFF7AFXNS&psc=0&re...

Pelt, IMHO, is one of the best 21st century jazz musicians out there and has been relentlessly touring the world while releasing studio albums on a yearly basis over a 10 year span now with some live releases mixed in. Great straight ahead old school jazz rooted  in traditional blues/hard bop but he does not limit himself and also composes and plays an equal amount of explorative complex harmonics and melody's.  His trumpet playing as well as his music compositions just keep getting better year after year.

I met him at Dizzy's Coca Cola Club in NYC back in 2014 while he was guest trumpet on a Ravi Coltrane date. I have all his albums including the one titled "The Talented Mr. Pelt." I walked over to the band after the show and spoke with Ravi then turned toward Jeremy and said "ah the talented Mr. Pelt" to which he smiled and gave me a firm handshake.

On the making of the "Talented Mr. Pelt":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGEHmh5-u1M

Some complex recordings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGEEoBWOx5Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPJ0ZfGSOSs

Blues:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlspBGB0Lhw

Hardbop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvhRFDRiIts

Ballad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfqHkdfJyWM







alex,

I really dig the 1st and 4th selections of Duke Pearson. 3 and 4 said video not available.

btw, I listened to the Joe Pass LP at a friends place. really enjoyed it. I rarely go to his place because he lives in NYC and I am 60 miles away in the suburbs.

He has a Rega Planar 2 turntable with tube tube pre amp and amp. 2 channel set up with B & W speakers.


nsp

My "hard bop" link "What's Wrong Is Right" is on your Soul LP.


I know you live on Long Island and wanted you to know that the great James Carter is playing at Birdland NYC in April and wouldn't want you to miss it.

http://jamescarterlive.com/performances

Its his organ trio band which always is a great show!

Gerard Gibbs on the Hammond B-3
http://hammondorganco.com/artists/organ-and-leslie-artists/gerard-gibbs/

Leonard King on the drums
http://leonardkingdrums.com/

Here is a complete live performance in France I think you will like it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI6KEeiMakw

frogman
yea its definitely a re - issue from CTI. Bad engineering. What about James Carter? can you make the date April 8 - 12 residency. Let me know.
btw, I'm listening to Stanley Turrentine's Sugar cd and it sounds very bright on the high frequency and not any depth in the bass.

Has anyone else with this cd noticed this? I have my system set up flat and neutral and the majority of my discs sound fine.
Schubert those 2 Illinois Jacquet clips are great 

The first one had me mesmerized and the second one had me tapping my feet and snapping my fingers! 

The second link gives credence Ellington's  "it don't mean a thing if aint got that swing"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxfMRhyzu3g




nsp and frogman

You 2 should meet me at the James Carter show a Birdland in April

Wudaya  say?
frogman The 9 April date is on a Tuesday. I’m definitely going to the Thursday 11 April show as I have prior engagements for that weekend but I may just see him 2x and go on the Tuesday.


IMHO, James Carter is someone that every jazz aficionado should see at least once in their lifetime. He was an exceptional player at age 16 when he toured Europe with the International Jazz Band in 1985.
34 years later, having just turned 50 this past January, you could make a strong case that no saxophone player alive can match him on a technical level. My only wish is that he would put out more albums. At the least once every year like modern trumpeter Jeremy Pelt has been doing. I plan on asking him about this and taking more photo's of him and I together at the show.

Here is a JC clinic in Mariachi Sax Boutique, Moscow, Russia. His statement about the "timeless jazz standards" was not surprising to me as he has the deepest respect for the musical composition arrangements of the great writers from the 1920’s - 1960’s and the players that made these songs masterpieces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7bcVdgHgcI

I have seen Carter play alto, tenor, soprano, and baritone and he has mastered them all.

His 1996 album "Conversing with the Elders" is his testament to the standards of the past and the musicians who played them. His 2000 album "Chasin’ The Gypsy pays homage to the great Django Reinhardt.


nsp I urge you not to miss out!!
I thank all of you for introducing me to the great pianist Gonzalo Rubalcaba. I have just ordered 4 of his albums!
Joshua Redman has a residency at the Blue Note NYC 2 through 7 April if your interested
frogman you misread my post above on Redman. His residence at the Bluenote ends on Sunday April 7. Here is the schedule:

http://www.bluenotejazz.com/newyork/schedule/index.shtml

I plan on going to the Friday April 5 show for Redman at the Bluenote and the Thursday April 11 show for Carter at Birdland as my friend and I have already chosen that date.


However, if I can swing it, I will also go to the Tuesday April 9 Carter show at Birdland.