Jazz for aficionados

Hi Schubert - as Frogman said, the progress the Asian countries in general have made with Western music is very impressive over the past few decades - it is not specific to Korea in particular (though my Korean sister-in-law would say they are the best, LOL!).  I think the same sort of discipline/work ethic that happens in their schools academically happens in their music teaching now.  

Another thing that their governments often do, especially in China and Hong Kong, is send students over here to study, paying for everything, with the understanding that the student is to return to that country and share the knowledge gained.  When I was in grad school in San Francisco at the Conservatory, there were many such students there, from all the Far East countries - many pianists, quite a few string players, and a trombone player.  All are now back in their home countries teaching others what they learned here, and sending students over here to do what they did.  

Learsfool, you went even farther than I was inferring to in regard to "imitating" improvised music. If this music was written out, do you think the classical musicians could play it, and make the music sound as though it wasn't faked?



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"Also you must remember that anything being improvised on the spot in a jazz club cannot be TOO complicated, otherwise it almost certainly wouldn't work, unless it was perhaps done by a group that was used to playing together all the time, and knew each other's musical tendencies very very well. And of course, as we have talked about before on this thread, the players all know the tune and the chord changes, so the melodic improvisation is taking place inside a very structured framework that all of the members of the group understand. And even if they don't know the tune at all, if they have what they call a "fake book" that includes it, they can use it and get through the tune."


The music I heard on a regular basis at jazz clubs was comparable to the music I've submitted on this post, and it was done by musicians in what you and Frogman called a "pick up band". In regard to "Too complicated", meaning comparable to the music I've submitted; I'll have to let you and others be the judge of that.

When "Monk" was queried what he thought was too many times about how to play something by a certain famous jazz musician, this was his response: "You a professional jazz musician, and you got a horn ain't cha". Meaning, blow the sucker, and it better come out right.

Although I was referring to a jazz musicians ability to improvise in my first post, I don't think I communicated this. (BTW, when is the last time you were at a jazz club?)






Enjoy the music.

 

Rok,


  "Naming some guy who plays locally in a club, is not a valid opinion."


Miles Davis was "Some guy who played locally in St. Louis", Clark Terry, was some guy who played locally in St. Louis. Grant Green, was some guy who played locally in St. Louis. You don't know it, but the the guy I was referring to was someone you raved about awhile ago.


So much for guys who played locally in St. Louis.





Enjoy the music.

***** Miles Davis was "Some guy who played locally in St. Louis", Clark Terry, was some guy who played locally in St. Louis. Grant Green, was some guy who played locally in St. Louis. *****


I said PLAYS, not PLAYED.

Besides, St. Louis is no longer St Louis.

Cheers

***** rok2id, Were you in combat with the Ist Cav ?*****

No. 

Since we can have Icons now, I just decided to insert the shoulder patches of the units I served with.   1st Cavalry Division was my last unit.  2nd Infantry Division (2id), my favorite.   Stay tuned.

Cheers