Jimmy Page, It's time to call your lawyers?


I'm pretty late to this party--as usual.  A Chicago radio station is starry-eyed over Greta Van Fleet.  I gave them a listen today.  All I could think was...

Is this a Zeppelin parody band? 

There are so many features to their sound, playing, and sonics that sound just like LZ--so much so that I cannot get into the music passionately.  These are (IMHO):  Vocals (phrasing mimics Robert Plant without stopping);  Lyrics (the themes seem, based on limited listening, to track LZ);  Lead Guitar (I cannot think of another guitarist who sounds like he's trying to sound like Page as much as this one).  

Does Greta Van Fleet sound like a facsimile to you?  I'm not hung up on punishing artists who copy, as I think it's part and parcel of the art form.  But I'm having real trouble getting past the photocopy nature of this.  Again, this is just one person's opinion. So curious to hear what others think and feel about this group.  I'd like to give them more of a chance and maybe others can help.  For now, I can't keep listening.

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Agreed teo_audio!  To be clear, I love Zeppelin.  I respect how good of musicians these guys are, but the LZ body of work stands on its own.  I don't need more bands like LZ.  
While Zeppelin stole and borrowed, they didn’t copy. I don’t think Plant or Page tried to sound just like Bukka White, Wllie Dixon or the countless others they stole from. 

I’m making a nuanced but important point. Listen to the production. Listen to the drum fills. Do you hear the organ come in and fade out nearly exactly how LZ did it in the near exact same times of the songs?  Listen to the placement of the guitar in the mix.   I don’t think they are just capturing the “sound”.

Sure no no one patents this stuff. My point is it’s a near clone. 

Mellencamp once said he thinks everything is there to be stolen. I firmly agree. My question when hearing this group is why do you want to clone ideas?  


My brain wants me to sing “Your Time is Gonna Come” during “Flower Power”. It’s so uncanny a resemblance. 
I checked in with my friends who love music. They are evenly split on their opinions—like versus skip them. 

I’m closer on the spectrum to these opinions. 

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/greta-van-fleet-anthem-of-the-peaceful-army/

https://www.allmusic.com/album/anthem-of-the-peaceful-army-mw0003211112

Isnt it true though that critics didn’t buy LZ or Billy Joel at first either?  I’m not saying these guys are LZ or BJ but it’s worth noting. 


The reviews are both serious and funny. 

I listened to Memphis Minnie and Bukka White on my ride home. Zeppelin did not copy anything but their lyrics and general chord progressions. The arrangements, production, vocals, and so on were theirs. That’s my problem with Greta Van—they are trying to sound just like every element of LZ. It’s sounds contrived. 
@baffler65, Yes, I agree. That was one major point I was trying to make.

LZ sounded nothing like the artists they stole from. Is there some irony here that another group is copying them? Some for sure. But the copying here is style of arrangements, lyrical themes, production, you name it. LZ was never a parody-maybe unto themselves. LZ sounded and played in an entirely unique way.

Its one one thing to cover or steal a Beatles song for your own arrangement . It’s another to want to sound just like them and use recording production to do it. Many are caught up though with  Zeppelin’s theft of lyrics. Go back and listen to Memphis Minnie sing When the Levee Breaks. LZ loved the blues and borrowed and stole from it. The band did not try to sound like any of them though. They had their own arrangements, tone, production, etc.

This band is not refreshing to me the way Jack White was when he first hit the commercial scene. I expect more from kids than this. They are however undisputedly young so they have time to create their own sound.