Lyra Kleos vs Koetsu Urushi

Lewm I have long thought what you posted...since I have not heard most of the Koetsu range, I was never sure of the sound. I recently heard a new Rosewood Signature..and i thought it was a good cart but certainly not at the level of some of the other new designs from Lyra, My Sonic or Air Tight....But then I have not heard the other contenders in the Koetsu line. I sure hope that what you say is correct. It would make sense.

Raul, the CAT phono stage gets very noisy as the cartridge output dips below 0.3mv in my system. Please note that I do not have very efficient speakers, so the amp has to work a lot harder to drive the speakers..and therefore the preamp has to do the same with the amp. I used to own a Benz cartridge that put out 0.2mv....the phono stage was way too noisy!
Are you saying that you think the Kleos is a superior cartridge to the Urushi? But not to the KRSP? The Kleos is a lot less expensive than the KRSP..at least in the US. 

Eric, what did you not like about your Kleos..? did you run it straight into the CAT or did you use the SUT? The Kleos has a lot more output than the Proteus ( BTW I think the Proteus is a GREAT cartridge!) so, if you were using the SUT with the Kleos, that might well account for the differences. Have you tried running the Proteus into the CAT without the SUT? Also, doesn't the CAT Renaissance have a built in SUT now, as well as the all tube phono stage?

I ended up with a new Lyra Kleos, after some significant experiments with loading, which I found to be very critical, I ended up with a custom Vishay at 750 ohms. Accuracy of set up is also imperative with these cartridges, but once it’s right, the cartridge takes off!

Compared to the Koetsu’s I have recently heard, including the Urushi Black and Vermillion, the Lyra is frankly in a totally different league to my ears.. a major improvement over the Koetsu’s in one very important area to my ears...Resolution! IMHO.YMMV etc.,  

CAT SL1 phono stage with rolled in 1963 NOS GE long plate 12AX7's.

@syntax Since when does higher output have anything to do with increased resolution? With that logic, all MM’s would always be more resolving than lower output MC’s! Unfortunately, that’s not the case.