Naim and Elac Adante, Wow

Audiotroy .. thanks for the info.. as for my personal perspective;

1) I listen to mostly progressive rock
2) My current front end and room seem maybe a good match for the Adante based on your comments.
3) My current speakers are M&D Ruby monitors, I like them a lot and my
in-room measured response looks similar to the Adante review published response.
4) I live in China.. so would prefer a good value speaker made here. (Thus also considering the R500.. but I need check which works well at around 2 meters listening distance).
5) I am over 60 yo... so some natural treble rise maybe not a problem.. also I have experience working live bands and recording, so understand exactly what you are referring to concerning the dynamics of snare hits, etc.

So I will definitely be giving these a serious audition somewhere that has a proper amp attached..

Thanks again!

Mothberg you will love them you are the perfect canidate for them.

We also many years ago had the Rubies even with the omin tweeter module they were a bit dull, the had excellent punch and tight bass.

The Elac is the more exciting of the two speakers the Kef's are a bit more polite, they do image very well, big soundstage. 

I think you will love the Adantes, go give them a listen and see for yourself. 

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ

Audiotroy:
As always, you generate many words and miss the point. I have tremendous respect for Andrew Jones. He is one of our premier speaker designers and I’m sure that Elacs sound wonderful.
As to your desire to put tomic601 and I in the same room to compare Vandy 7s and Alexias, I would be happy to do that as you suggest. It would, as you say, be priceless. I have heard the Vandy 7s many times with the very electronics I use to drive my Sashas and I think they are great speakers as well, although a fairer comparison would be Vandy 7s vs Alexia v2s. Judging from tomic601’s reasonable and well balanced posts, I believe we would discuss the different attributes of each speaker, why we might prefer how one presents music over the other and have a great time as I do (and I’m sure he does) with many audiophile friends with different preferences. Unlike you, I would never conclude that tomic601 is a "fanboy" if he prefers Vandys and I’m sure he would not call me a "fanboy" for preferring Wilsons. Nor would he tell me that I must prefer balsa drivers because they are more innovative and advanced than paper pulp and I would not say that he must prefer Wilson’s advanced cabinetry technology over the new Vandy enclosures. You see, "fanboy" is, to me, a pejorative word best used to describe an eighth grade rival who prefers one comic book or superhero over another. That word has no point in civil adult conversation. But you use it all the time to describe anyone who prefers a brand over one which you carry.
Once again, it is not the products you carry --some of which are very good. It is how you promote them here and how you criticize other who disagree with you by usually citing technology, your experience or your trained ear--which every other reputable dealer can do, but does not do here because it is so distasteful and would lead to endless arguments between dealers as to who has the best technology, experience and ear. You also fail to realize that there are many members here have decades of experience in the high end industry, have heard hundreds, if not thousands of speakers, read the trade mags and white papers with respect to technological innovation in speaker design and do not need to be told how you have the best stuff because, as a scientific fact, your brands have the best technology to accurately portray the source. If that were true, we could all just go out and buy Magico and not bother to Quads, Harbeth, Proac, Verity Audio or the like. Your usual comeback is in the following vein:--"I’m just trying to impart valuable information including my golden ears and vast experience to those who may not have considered the brands I carry and suggest that they give my brands a listen"
Right.
Wouldn’t any dealer frame their sales job that way? I’m so happy that they don’t and we only have to listen to you do it.

Nice words Contuzzi, I am still pondering your comments " Keep in mind I have about two months worth of experience with them (AS and AF) ahead of you."

If you hate the speakers you are not an owner, as an owner would’t purchase two pairs of speakers they don’t like.

So you work for or are in the Industry do you want to explain that one?

As per your opinions, we do agree on how good the Personas can be, however, your lack of credibility about the importance of cables or electronics in shaping sound is downright hard to believe by someone with experience unless that person works at a store setup with a switchboard or one that sells only decent but not high end electronics.

Amplifers absolutely sound different not just tubes to solid state,

We have Cambridge Audio clean but a bit bright sound, compare that to a Naim which is warm and full bodied on the same speaker and you will get totally different results.

We never said the Adantes are perfect they are not they can sound really impressive with explosive dynaimcs and tight visceral bass providing you use compliementary electronics and cabling.

A great audio guy can take a speaker or amp and match it with the appropirate, electronics, cabling and digital to make a system that sounds great a bad one, just hooks up a set of speakers and pronunces them good or bad. It is something called synergy.

Good luck Contuzzi.

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ

PS all you haters, we now have Motherberg, ZZ,Arafiq, and Randysa who finds our posts informatve. In all four cases ZZ no one has purchased anything from us! 

You guys really need to grow up a bit and view these forums as a place to exchange experiences which we have over 30 years of professional experience.

Grgr4blu as usual you don’t get it, four other people on this thread found our comments both useful and enlightening.

It is becaue we have experience through years and years of testing and experimentation that we can offer perspectives that many people find useful.

In our shop we have a huge selection of digital products so we can actually guide a prospective client, so we know the differences between brands.

The point I was making about you and Tomic, is the ever over the top pefect piston argument, that people who are Vandy fans, as well as the time and phase alignment is the only way to build a speaker.

As a former Wilson owner whose speakers are not phase aligned, we don’t feel that is true as the WP 3/2 and 5 in their day sounded fantastic and we know you love your Sasha WP.

As per fanboy being a perjorative, it is. personally I hate all of the fanboys, not the people per se but this attitude, I know of one poster not Tomic, on every thread, there is usually one and only one brand of speaker that he ever really mentions. I don’t know about you but I find there are a lot of great speakers out there including ones we sell and ones we don’t, like Rockport and Vivid which we talk about but don’t sell either.

A fanboy is the type of person who believes that the Tekton is the best speaker for all listners, a fanboy only spouts Vandy or Wilson or whatever at every post, they don’t understand many brands because they may have limited experience.

If you notice we talk about specific speakers to appeal to specific listeners, tastes and budgets and room decor. Unless it is a post about choices where we usually mention our three reference lines the Kef Blades, the Legacy Aeris and the Paradigms. You will also notice we don’t usually say these are better but you may find them to be better and they rival x or y or may be better at this or that.

In the case of the Paradigms vs the Kharma Exquistes a $120k set of speakers we said they were very good just not worth that kind of money, you see we have to purchase our demo products so if we don’t think something is worth the money it is kind of hard to sell.

Many people are equilly tired of your incessant blathering and as demonstrated many peole, four in this thread, found our comments to be helpful, beneficial and of guidance does anyone find any value in your comments?

Stop trying to voice your views on the forums about our behavior and either bring to the forums your vast experience or just clam up.

Stick to the topic which is how does the Adante perform with a Naim and are there othe people who have found a musically pleasing combination with the speakers?

And if this was a shill/sales post, then don’t you think we would not point out that the speakers are not perfect and they do have some issues?

Yes on the Naim Atom with WIreworld cables and the Adante AS 61 listening to streaming music was totally fantastic and was engaging.

Please add something about how the speakers sound based on your experience.

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ