Need DAC/Streaming Advice


I currently own a Bryston BDP-2 digital player that I run through a Bryston DAC.  As far as playing high resolution files via a thumb drive or other external drive, the BDP-2 sounds great.  The streaming part leaves a lot to be desired.  I can stream Tidal but it is extremely slow and the IPad controller is pretty lousy.  I can listen to Sonos through the DAC into my main system but obviously there is no hi-Rez via Sonos. I would like to find a better solution and am willing to start over (I can move the Bryston components to my secondary system).  What I would like to find is a higher end streamer for my main system that would allow me to stream Tidal, Spotify and Deezer if possible while also playing digital files via thumb drive etc. I have no idea if that can be done in a one box solution or if I would need a separate streamer and DAC.  I would very much appreciate any and all thoughts.  Thanks in advance.
puppyt

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Have you considered upgrading the Bryston BDP-2 to a BDP-3?  It is supposed to be much faster.  I think it runs about $1500 for the upgrade.
  Your question about Bluesound being a Sonos that can stream High Rez is spot on.  I currently find it difficult to recommend Bluesound due to technical difficulties that I and other forumites have had with it, although when it is working, it sounds great and the app makes finding music relatively easy.
  Simaudio MiND2 is an interesting product that hasn’t gotten a lot of attention on this side of the border.
OP

regarding your Bryston, which did you use to control it??  Manic Moose, or something else?

Puppy 

Thats a little discouraging, as I have ordered a BDP 3 to pair with my DAC3.  I have had Bluesound for the past 3 years but I am finally throwing in the towel after not being able to use it for a quarter of that time.  When it works, it’s a nice product 
Depends on the rest of your system.  If it is reasonably resolving, I would say yes, it’s worth an external DAC
OP
For my sake, I am hoping that your Bryston experience is an outlier.  I use Ethernet so hopefully that will help.
So Puppy, you say you purchased a Node 2i, but then you ask how long it will take to rip a CD to the Vault.  I am confused as to what your Bluesound setup is, please clarify.
i had ripped about 900CDs to my Vault in FLAC, and used 0.7 TB in the process.  Realizing that my several thousand CD collection wasn’t going to be contained on the Vault, I then had a NAS put in and transferred the Vault files to the NAS.  The storage limit on the Vault is 2TB and the NAS I chose is 10 TB.  The other advantage of having the collection on the NAS is that I can control it from Bluesound, from my Oppo, from my new Bryston, from my PC.....you aren’t limited to the foibles of one manufacturer..
  Ripped CDs will show up in the Vault almost immediately.  A rip takes from 2 to 10 minutes.
Puppy, my recommendation would be that if you have purchased just a Node 2i and are thinking about purchasing a Vault or Vault2i is don’t purchase the Vault but save that money for a NAS.  You can plug the NAS directly into the Bryston (I’m wondering if it’s the WiFi dongle on the BDP2 that might be your issue) and the Node2i can access the NAS via WiFi).  I would then hire a high school or college student to burn your CDs into the NAS
Uber, I don’t think a Vault is going to be big enough to hold his 6000 CD collection, unless he does MP3.  I think a NAS with a Node 2i will work better, especially since he can use the NAS with his Bryston.
  Today I couldn’t get a peep out of Bluesound.  The app showed all the players, but all Igot was silence.  After a few minutes I unplugged them all and then replugged them and all was well.
i wonder if people who have multiple Bluesound units are more prone to issues than single unit owners.  Any, the fun has definitely gone for me with this product.  I was supposed to have picked up the Bryston BDP3 today but it wasn’t worth trudging through a foot of snow in 50 below wind chill...
Puppy
  I’ll be interested in your take on comparing the Manic Moose app versus the BlueOS.  I know that Bipolar Bison (sorry) is supposed to be a weak spot with the Bryston Players and I might be asking Austinbob above for suggestions when I get the BDP3.
  It’s also interesting that there are complaints about speed and reliability of the BDP 1 and 2 and speed and reliability.  A lot of people wondered why Bryston went so fast from BDP 1 to 3, and the reviews tend to mention how fast and stable the BDP3 is but seem to avoid mentioning problems with the earlier players.
  I wasn’t aware that Roon could be added to the BDP2, as the ads for the BDP3 make a big deal of how It will do Roon, which to me implied the BDP2 couldn’t be a Roon endpoint.  Perhaps asosa can elaborate 
Jonkay 
sorry to hear about your Bluesound problems.  Did you try a different streamer?
I haven’t picked up the BDP3-just got an email from the shop today saying it arrived.
is the Tidal app on your computer, or on theBDP-2?  Or do you access it it as a direct link from Manic Moose?
btw, Bryston has a users forum, you may want to scope it out if you haven’t already.
Thanks for posting that, mgrif
In the past, I didn’t think that there was much difference between Bluesound as a transport when I compared it with my Oppo 105 and my MacAir using Audirvana + when all played into the same DAC.  They didn’t sound identical, but I thought they were more or less equivalent.  After not using Bluesound for over a month due to connectivity issues, and now using it again, I do think that it is just a slight bit less transparent than the other two options I currently have for controlling my NAS.  My 0.03 on SQ
My bias would be the Bryston BDP-3, as that is the call I just made, but I just picked up the BDP-3 and haven’t had a chance to set it up yet, so check back with me in a few weeks.  I am hoping for synergy with the BDA-3 and that the unit as a whole will be more stable than Bluesound, and hopefully, considering the increased price relative to Bluesound, it will sound better.
  With the NAD you are confined to the Blue OS app, and while it isn’t bad, with the Bryston there are at least two possible ways to control it.
Actually I don’t know that much about the NAD, so perhaps it can be used with another app...worth investigating.