New Von Schweikert VR SR4 mk11 Cream or Crap ???

Thanks, I will keep trying different positions.
I might add that I have them about 10 feet apart.
My room is 18' x 25" with an 8 foot ceiling

Your room is very close to mine in size. My room is 15.5' x 26' and I have my HSEs 76" into the room measured to the back of the cabinet. They are only about 8 ft. apart, center to center with about 1" of toe in. This seems to give me the best balance between SS width and image density. But if the Sr.s are like other VS offerings I have heard, you probably are only about half way there with break in. It took my original VR4s about about 500-600 hrs before I felt they sounded their best.

Oz

Ozzy It took I'd say at least 500 hours for full break in of my VR4Sr's but from where you are they should be pretty stable, and just get slowly sweeter and better. I have not had much trouble at all with bass even though I am only about 18 inches off the front wall, given the new forward firing port. Von and his son both have said to me that they really attempted to design so that closer front wall placement would be possible. What I do see with close placement (and a TV in between - even covered with blankets) is a challenge in getting the soundstage to really lock in fully. It is a trade off I have to do becuase of being in a multi-use room.

Gammajo,Tvad,Ozzy62 Thanks for the advise,

I have a large 62" LCD in between the speakers.
I have placed a ASC 1/2 tube trap behind the TV and I have 16" dia 8 feet tall Tube traps in the corners.
I also have 3 room lens ,2 outside the speakers and the third behind my listening position.
The first and second reflections also are treated.

I am using the room also for home theatre with a seperate Amp, Equipment and speakers for that.

Actually, the VS front speakers are 52" from the back wall and with the front port I thought it would be fine at that distance. I can bring them out a few more inches but beyond that with my speaker cables it would mean I would have to move my Pass Labs Amp out into the room. However, I like the Amp where it is, on the side of my TV stand .

When I turn down the VS rear speakers the soundstage seems to lock in better, but the instructions says in order to break the rear speakers in, let them play at full level until all the speakers are broke in.

Wow, you guys are saying 500 hours, thats a long time for break in. But,what the hey.
They do seem to sound more refined now than from day one.

Since I have the speakers almost 10 feet apart I tried sitting that same distance to them. You know the triangle thing.
I find that moving back a few feet more brings the soundstage together more.
Thanks again.

Since I have the speakers almost 10 feet apart I tried sitting that same distance to them. You know the triangle thing.
I find that moving back a few feet more brings the soundstage together more.
Ozzy (System | Reviews | Threads | Answers)

That's about right. I was once advised to toe in the speakers so a line drawn from each tweeter would intersect about a foot behind my head at the listening position. It worked for me.

The image will change if you sit closer and toe in the speakers a bit. Also, sitting closer eliminates some of the effects of side wall reflections.

FWIW.