Slagle AVC Modules & Lightspeed Attenuator


Recently I’ve been fortunate to be in possession of two excellent passive preamps that won’t break the bank, in fact far from it. The following comments are based on some observations I made when listening to and comparing the Slagle Autoformer Modules to the Lightspeed Attenuator. While both are passive preamps, they use different designs. Both were built with separate volume controls per channel. For the Slagle Autoformer Modules this is standard and for the Lightspeed it was a custom feature. The cost for each is approximately $450.

My intent is not to make this so much a review, but to provide some comparative notes for others to use. I have professed my preference for passive preamps many times in these forums and feel in the right system, obviously one that is passive friendly, they are the best choice if one is looking for a simple design that offers a high dose of purity, dynamics, transparency, and neutrality.

The Slagle Autoformer Modules are a joint design between John Chapman of Bent Audio and Dave Slagle of Intact Audio. The design uses autoformers to attenuate the signal, but with a custom board that eliminates the need for excessive wiring. In addition, each module (two are required for stereo operation) uses a unique dual volume switch. The first switch offers 11 steps with 3.75db increments. The second switch provides 3 positions with -1.25db, 0 db, and +1.25db settings. Overall using a combination of the switches attenuation is from +1.25dB to -41.25 dB in 32 steps. For more information on the design go here:

http://intactaudio.com/module.html

The Lightspeed Attenuator is designed by George Stantscheff and is basically a resistive passive design with a twist. The uniqueness of the Lightspeed's design is that there are no contact points in the form of a "wiper", as is the case with other passive designs (resistive and transformer) that use a potentiometer or discrete stepped attenuator. The key components in the Lightspeed Attenuator are Silonex NSL-32SR2 Optocouplers. The optocoupler device is a sealed unit that consists of a high performance LED that shines on a light dependent resistor (LDR) thereby achieving proper attenuation. Since the optocouplers require a power supply the Lightspeed does require the use of a power plug. For more information on the design and how it works go here:

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=80194

http://diyaudioprojects.com/Solid/DIY-Lightspeed-Passive-Attenuator/

Optocouplers are not new to preamp designs. If I recall correctly Melos was using them long ago in one of their active preamps and Dartzeel uses them too. Nelson Pass has also published a schematic that uses optocouplers in an active preamp design.

Ever since John Chapman reintroduced the TAP-X passive preamplifier using Dave Slagle's autoformers I've been hoping to try it out. Unfortunately I never got the opportunity, but John did build a couple of Slagle Autofomer Module prototypes (single input, dual output, single ended RCA) to play around with, stuffing them into a Bent Flex chassis, and I was able to get my hands on one of these via John and Dave.

I had already had the Lightspeed Attenuator (single input, single output, single ended RCA) for some time now and compared it to my JRGD Capri active preamp as well as an Audio Consulting Silver Rock TVC. The former comparison was done in my system while the latter was done in a friends system. I have already commented elsewhere in the forums as to how the Lightspeed Attenuator fared against the Audio Consulting Silver Rock, but to reiterate it certainly held its own and in my opinion was slightly more transparent and neutral than the Silver Rock. It just seemed to get out of the way of the music a bit more so than the Silver Rock. Otherwise, price aside, all things were pretty well equal. In comparison to the Capri, the Lightspeed showed that the Capri had a tendency to err on the side of warmth. The Capri provided slightly more punch in the lower frequencies, but all told it wasn't missed much when I swapped the Lightspeed into the system. Both units had excellent top end extension, but I would give a slight edge to the Lightspeed here.

I received the Bent/Slagle Autoformer Modules a few weeks ago. I have been rotating the three preamps in my system since I received it. Over the last week the Capri was removed entirely and the focus was on comparing the Bent/Slagle to the Lightspeed Attenuator. I was hoping that the comparison would be similar to the one I did previously with the Audio Consulting TVC in that it would be pretty evident as to the differences between the components. However, this would not be the case. The Bent/Slagle and Lightspeed Attenuator are very difficult for me to differentiate. They are very close on nearly every level: transparency, neutrality, frequency extension, and noise. Overall, I would have to give the Lightspeed a slight edge over the Bent/Slagle, but there is something seductive about the Bent/Slagle that also makes it an enjoyable piece of equipment and I feel fortunate to have the both.

So there you have it, a couple of passive preamps that are fairly inexpensive and whose performance in my opinion is high end. They’ll be alternating in and out of my system for the near future. Now if I can get a balanced version of each that might make for some more interesting comparisons.
clio09

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Should be perfect (heaven actually)with your 3.7v output from the CDP and the 100kohm unbalanced input of the M60 MkIII monoblocks.

Cheers George
Of all the customers about 25 that I have that have both, they all said they prefer the Lightspeed Attenuator because it has better dynamics and is more transparent than the TVC's.

Cheers George
Thanks for the wrap guys, just a note, my prototype that has been powered on 24/7 now for more than 5 years has in fact got dual inputs with a very good gold plated 2amp rated switch the best I could find.
Still when I listen test every production Lightspeed Attenuator for a few hours they always sound just that little bit better, this is why I will not do a dual or multiple input, and would rather the customer get a source switching box, this way when you really want to hear your system at it's best to show off to friends, you just go direct and bypass the input switch box, this way you can have your cake and eat it too.
Cheers George
Also Paul, wait till you hear the Lightspeed Attenuator with your M60 OTL's.
I heard OTL monoblocks 8 x 509 tubes in each with a Lightspeed up their skirts last weekend, I must say it was the most crystalline sound I have ever heard, it reminded me of when I heard Magnat Ionic tweeters on top of double stacked 57 quads for the first time before getting gassed to death. AMAZING!!!
Cheers George
If I could just chime in here about the PRAT factor with the Lightspeed Attenuator. If you have a source that is 50kohm (100kohm or more input even better) your PRAT factor if anything will be better than ever, it give the impression that your listening to something like a DBX unit (Dynamic Range Enhancer) without all the pittfalls of those things.

Cheers George
Sorry, moderators have edited and stuffed up the figures in my last post.
Source output impedance (cdp or phono stage) should be less than 50kohm

Cheers George
Sorry again, you moderators are nutz your going to blow some ones system up if you keep editing my figures like that, you have know idea what your editing. I'll try a fresh post please leave it alone.
Cheers George

Cheers George
OK lets see if this one gets through unscathed.
If I could just chime in here about the PRAT factor with the Lightspeed Attenuator. If you have a source (cdp or phono stage) that is less than 100ohms output impedance and power amps that are more than 50kohm (100kohm or more input even better) your PRAT factor if anything will be better than anything you've heard, it gives the impression that your listening to something like the old DBX units (Dynamic Range Enhancer) without all the pitfalls of those things.
Cheers George (Lightspeed Attenuator Manufacturer)
I may have jumped the gun and have to appologise.

It looks as though your server or fire wall is doing the self editing, as if I try to insert the more than or less than signs (the V's on their side) it does the self edit thing, you guys need to fix this.

Cheers George
Pass XA100's are very low input impedance, I think around 12k or 20k this is why Nelson designed a very simple 2 Fet buffer for the Lightspeed Attenuator, you can see it on my Lightspeed Attenuator forum on Diy Audio, it's for memory it's around page 135, or if you like tube buffers, I have posted the circuit for a SLCF (Super Linear Cathode Follower) page 320, it's about 100ohms output impedance, and probably the best buffer I have heard, but still the best buffer is no buffer if you get the impedances right as I've posted above.
Cheers George
Pubul57
There is something about the idea of a passive linestage that makes me think it has to be better of doing nothing destructive to the signal, and that in some way an active, any active simply does too much to a signal be as pure to the source. Assuming appropriate gain and impedance match.Pubul57

Hi Paul, there is a way you can see how little the Lightspeed Attenuator embeds it's own character onto the sound of the source. I don't tell many people to do this but if your careful it can show what colorations/distortions preamps passive or active are doing.
First plug your source directly into your poweramp and the put on a known very quite low level CD (have your finger on the stop button just in case) then get a cd/track that you think will be at your normal listening level and see what it sounds like, this is the purest sound you will get from your system. Note the level you were listening at, insert the Lightspeed and listen again at the same volume, I've done this many times to members of our audiophile society and they cannot pick if the Lightspeed was in or out of the system, yet when tried with other active/passive pre's they could distinguish the difference, this listening test shows how transparent the pre is. Saying that you will get people that like the colorations that some pres can give if the system is flawed and needs that coloration embeded on it.
Cheers George
The simple way is to just get a source switch box, then you can have your cake and it too. So when you want to get the best out of your system you can still go direct, as I've have proved with my prototype, which does have two inputs with the best source selector switch available, the single input production Lightspeed Attenuators still sound a bit better every time I put them into my system to do listening tests before shipping out.

Cheers George