Speaker Placement CD


Hey A-goN'rs,

I recall posts regarding at least one or more different speaker placement CD's that audibly assist with locating the optimal speaker position in the room. Anyone have the name(s) of these products? What was your experience? Were you able to find an optimal position for your speakers using the guided assistance? Did your system sound better after finding the optimal position? 

Lastly, what happens if you are unable to place you speakers in the optimal position due to extenuating circumstances such as WAF (not an issue for me in my man-cave) or finding that the optimal position is right in the middle of your foot traffic pattern? Does the guided app help you find the best compromise position too, in the event you cannot use the exact optimal positioning?

I'm just curious because my room and speaker placement is not typical. I can't easily change the basic location of my speakers. I just want to optimize them as best possible. I really like the basic sound of my setup and there are no major deficiencies I'm trying to resolve. Just curious if a guided speaker placement CD would be of any benefit to me.

Oh, speakers are large bookshelf type, on stands - vintage Infinity RS1.5. And they rock!


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reubent-
seek out the Stereophile Test CDs (1,2,3).  This is a good place to start.
Another to consider is the Stereophile Editor's Choice CD. Hope this helps.

Happy Listening!
I recall posts regarding at least one or more different speaker placement CD's that audibly assist with locating the optimal speaker position in the room. Anyone have the name(s) of these products?

The XLO Test CD... credit geoffkait with that info

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/speaker-distance/post?highlight=xlo&postid=1502964#150296...
@jafant - thanks for your reply, but the Stereophile test CDs were not what I was looking for. I have at least one of those, but I was looking for a CD that specifically helps identify the EXACT correct speaker position in the room.

@gdhal - Thanks, that's one of them for sure. I knew Geoff posted the information at some point, and I tried to find it. However, Geoff is such a prolific poster that I could not find his post recommending the XLO CD.

Gentlemen, I greatly appreciate your responses.......
For anyone looking, per the link that @gdhal provided, the other speaker placement CD looks to the IsoTek.
@reubent "Lastly, what happens if you are unable to place you speakers in the optimal position due to extenuating circumstances such as WAF (not an issue for me in my man-cave) or finding that the optimal position is right in the middle of your foot traffic pattern?"

As I believe the loudspeaker-room interface represents the most important link in the audio chain, not siting the loudspeakers optimally negates so much of the money / components folks spend on their system. It’s much like focusing a lens. A less good lens focused properly presents a much better view than a much better lens out of focus
@trelja - Trust me, I understand that if I do not use the optimal position, I will get sub-optimal results. Unfortunately, I am somewhat limited in speaker placement in the room I'm using. I am limited to one particular wall on which to place the speakers and system due to physical limitations of this room in my basement.

That said, I don't really have any restrictions where the speakers go along that wall. I've got nearly was much width, depth and height as I need, along that particular wall.

I guess my questions regarding the speaker placement CDs, like XLO, are:

1). "Does the placement CD tell you exactly in the room the speakers should be placed"
2). "Does it start from scratch and tell you where to place the first speaker"
3). "Does the speaker placement CD tell you where to place the second speaker, relative to the first speaker"?

If I can place one speaker in approximately the position where I want it to reside, will the CD help me place the second speaker to best compliment the first speaker? I would think this is how it works because my understanding is, that when using the CD, everything falls into phase (sounds correct) when the second speaker is moved into the correct position, relative to the first speaker.

Thanks for your comments and any additional insights........


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That said, I don’t really have any restrictions where the speakers go along that wall. I’ve got nearly was much width, depth and height as I need, along that particular wall.

I guess my questions regarding the speaker placement CDs, like XLO, are:

1). "Does the placement CD tell you exactly in the room the speakers should be placed"

>>>>>The CD explains how to move the speakers a little at a time starting from the initial locations about 4 feet apart. You have to start somewhere. The XLO CD does not tell you which wall or how far from the wall to start. The better the room is treated, the better you will hear the best locations where the sound is the most diffuse on the out of phase track - which occurs when the speaker locations are the absolute best. You want the voice on the XLO track to sound like it’s coming at you from all around your room with no particular direction.

2). "Does it start from scratch and tell you where to place the first speaker"

>>>>>No, it only tells you to start with the speakers closer than you might think. Then move them outward slowly, a little at a time. You should also experiment with speaker distance from the wall. No one said it was easy. 😬

3). "Does the speaker placement CD tell you where to place the second speaker, relative to the first speaker"?

>>>>>>Yes. The second speaker should be placed 4 feet from the first speaker initially. As I recall it doesn’t tell you the initial distance from the wall or which wall.
@geoffkait - Thank you for taking the time to respond. You explained exactly what I wanted to know about the XLO CD speaker placement process. Most appreciated.........
If you are unsure where to start at all, besides the 4ft apart recommendation, maybe start with some cardas or other ratio math placement based on your room dimensions. Then implement the CD.