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Speaker positioning games. Where can I go from here?

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Last Thursday night I was messing with my speaker positioning. I’m nwver happy with the bass but I am barely into building my endgame system so I think some of that will worked out.

anyway, I moved my speakers (Focal 907v on stands) from 13” (back of cab to front wall) out to 22”. Bass is lessened but it’s most noticeable in bass attack. But there’s a fullness I didn’t expect.

I then toed them in which really made the vocals pop into that center position and all around imaging is much improved. The left speaker is 40” from a wall of windows and the right has nothing next to it for 13’. For the toe in I left the outside corner of the cabinet at 22” from the wall but rotated so the inside rear corner is now 21.5” from front wall. I think this improved imaging by lessening reflection on the left side.

I sit on a couch with a table between it and the back wall. My ear is ~18” from the back wall (drywall). The drivers are 91” apart and 98” to my ear. I think lessening early reflections and some combing has made things sound better.

My system build is glacially slow. So far I have the power amp I want and that’s it. All other pieces will be swapped out and sold as I replace them. My plan for this calendar year is to replace the Project DC with 2M Blue with a SL1200GR with possibly a Nag MP200. Next year, maybe around March replace the current line stage (Schiit Sys-temporary) with an Odyssey Candela (tubed line stage) and Buchardt S400 speakers in the summer. My feeling is that these first 2 pieces alone will really bolster my bass I response.

But in the meantime. What other positioning tweaks can I try? My room is basically a horizontal rectangle with the living room/listening spot on the left half with the rig on the long wall.

thanks.

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elizabeth
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When I first got Magnepan 3.6 speakers, I methodically meaured the room. Then calculated the spots 1/3... 1/4... 1/5... 1/6... 1/7... 1/8... 1/9 and made a chart. trying to stay away from even distances, and keep odd distances. Turned out the 1/5 and 1/7 from two different distances (from farthest wall, as a closer wall where a pair of closets cut the entryway and kitchen apart were the same..So I used that distance to start. Sinc it also had a 'from rear wall' distance good for Magnepans. nine years later I still like it as the best sounding distance or my now Magnepan 20.7 speakers.   
Just mentioning how I decided where to start.    
At this point I have exact distances from side wall, right edge and left edge written down. So if I move them, I can get them back to the exact same spot. The most I have changed since getting the toe in right is an inch for each speaker farther from side walls ... LOL
elizabeth
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For me it is clarity of imaging. Actually i want to lessen bass, and do so in various ways. I live in an "over 55" apartment complex. No vibrating walls allowed.. Folks move in... others hear the bass thumping  week they move in. 3 day notice to move out is in their mailbox. They either stop thumping, or get evicted.  Quiet enjoyment means something here. I have no intention of annoying my neighbors. Been her over eleven years, never a complaint. I did mull over whether the 20.7 would have too much bass, but I have been able to solve the problem with the right AC solution.  
Still some Rock I can really only play with earphones.. But most everything else is OK.
elizabeth
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For my own setup, I notice some powercords increase the bass. where others do not change it. A powercord made with DH Labs $8 ft AC wire increases the bass. I used Furutech Rhodium '28' plugs) also this wire takes a long time to break in. or even settle if moved.
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