Stacked Quad Questions


I am soon taking delivery of a pair of stacked quads, recently rebuilt by Electrostatic Solutions and with custom Sound Anchor stands (steel stands, with speakers set between aluminum side panels).  The aluminum side panels place the two speakers on a vertical plane with the transformers back-to-back in the middle, and no middle surface to which a tweeter could be mounted.  I can also get custom side panels made that would accommodate other configurations (convex or concave speaker positioning, a middle panel in which tweeters can be inserted, etc.).  I have had single quads before (Wayne Piquet rebuilds), and I have the following ancillary equipment that worked well with the single quad 57's:   a Bedini 25/25 solid state amp, a pair of VTL Tiny Triode TT25 EL84 monoblocks (most recent build), a pair of Cary SLM70 EL34 monoblocks, a pair of Townshend super tweeters, and a pair of Magnan signature speaker cables.

My questions, in order of priority, include:

  1. There are 3 ways to wire these speakers: a single amp driving a stacked quad wired in parallel, or in series, or two amps (or two channels) each driving a single quad in the stacked pair.  What are the advantages and disadvantages of these three options?  Does choosing one of these options disqualify any of my current amplifiers?  Note that I don't have four channels of the same amplification for the third option, and would prefer to use my current amplifier arsenal, so I would have to mix and match amps for each stacked pair, which might require a means to balance output.
  2. Electrostatic Solutions (Kent) prefers the geometry of this mounting (2 speakers on a flat plane) to convex or concave configuration. He places the speakers kind of high in order to deal with the limited vertical dispersion of the tweeter (beaming), so that the midpoint of the bottom quad is at seated ear level. The stand is fully height adjustable, so there is plenty of flexibility there.  Any other thoughts about the mounting geometries?  
  3. I know that the Mark Levinson HQD stacked quad systems used supplemental tweeters.  I have the Townshend super tweeters, which claim to " accurately reveal high frequency detail above 6kHz" but seem to emphasize frequencies above 20kHz. I also have nowhere to mount the supertweeters - I would have to strap them to one leg of the stand.  I know that Kent doesn't believe that stacked quads need additional tweeters.  What is your experience? I could change the panel configuration so there is a middle surface for tweeter mounting. Is it necessary to use expensive types of ribbon tweeters (e.g. the Deccas used by Mark Levinson), or are there more affordable and excellent ribbon tweeters now available?  How does one wire the tweeters - in parallel with the stacked quads with a simple capacitor/resistor as a passive Xover? 
Thanks in advance for any insight you can provide!  Peter
peter_s

Showing 3 responses by whart

Good for you; I have never run them stacked, but will keep an eye on this thread. Kent recently restored my old pair and even as single panels, they sound the best ever. I did use Decca and Sequerra ribbons back in the day, and mounted them on DIY stands separate from the speaker so they were positioned above the (lower) ESL.
No woofs?
I have a couple packets of literature from back in the day on setting up Stacked Quads, I haven't been able to lay my hands on them since I moved. I think it was more about building the frames and positioning than wiring, but there are some people running stacked systems who could tell you what they've done. 
Yeah, the bass on a single pair is taut, full of tone, beautiful really, just doesn't go down deep. And when you get them up on off the floor (which I i did years ago with the Arcici stand) you lose some of that floor reinforcement. Perhaps the double pair makes up for it, I never had success with subs but that was back in the '70s and early-mid 80's. Right now, running my single pair without any supplementary speakers. They are still the best mid range speaker I've ever heard. Did you know Faye Dunaway apparently had stacked Quads- crazy, right?
@peter_s - re amp power, when I got this pair of Quads in 1973 I eventually ran them with an ARC Dual 75a (which was brand spanking new though very old school by today’s standards- still have the amp). But now, I’m running mine, restored, with a pair of Quad IIs, which have very little power and usually sound too romantic- they just gel with the speaker, at least using GEC KT 66s. So, bigger isn’t necessarily better here. Not suggesting you buy all different amps, but the synergy with the little old Quad amp is pretty amazing.
BTW, i'm very excited for you, i have long wanted to run a stacked pair.