Streaming Music and being able to keep them as your personel files
@zyax39 The membership for these streaming sites are access fees only. You are not purchasing songs per se'. With Tidal for instance, and perhaps the others, I am not sure, but a "tag" of the music you wish to stream and keep in a library or playlists, are reference markers only. If you take your streamer off line, your referenced music will not play. The only was of 'keeping" the music is to record it, most likely via microphone in front of speakers. The streamers have us locked up and tight. |
The Tidal app on iOS (and I imagine Android, though I've never tried it) allows you to download content to your device to be able to play it locally without an internet connection (such as when you're on a plane). It does need to periodically authenticate with the Tidal servers, though I don't know how often that happens, you could probably keep your offline files offline for at least a week and have them still work, but eventually they're going to stop playing until you allow Tidal to connect to the internet and authenticate you still have a valid subscription. |
I wonder if it’s possible to record the Tidal digital signal off the digital output of my Esoteric DAC as Tidal streams through the DAC in real time. I have a Tascam digital recorder that should be able to pick that up from the DAC's RCA digital output and record it. Alternatively, it's a straight-forward process to pass a DAC's analog outputs into the Tascam's ADC for recording. However it would be nicer to avoid multiple digital-to-analog conversions by keeping the process in the digital domain. |
@dweller Sure, you could do that, but you'd have to time the track breaks just right, then you have to convert what will probably be a raw .WAV file into something more usable, input all of the metadata manually for each track, and go through a lot of hassle when it would be easier to just buy the album from HDTracks or iTunes if you want to keep it forever and move it across multiple devices. When you sign up for a streaming service you are't buying the music, you're buying access to play any of the music from their catalog for as long as you maintain your membership. If you want to keep the music you need to buy the album from a service that offers that. |
Very simple once a member of tidal, Deezer, Spotify etc. At least on tidal the proceedure is once you are highlighted on an album, there will be a drop down,menu on the right to access. This gives you options like, play, add to favourites and download. If I remember right this option to download is only available to mobile devices and versions( android and iOS). I know it does not exist on my desktop tidal app. Good luck. |
@dweller Sure, that's not fundamentally different from using the tape loop with a tape recorder back in the old days to record from a turntable or a tuner. You're not going to end up with a bit-perfect copy of the original though, and it's not going to have any of the metadata that makes it easy to manage in a portable player. It's also a bit more dubious from an ethical stance - making mix tapes and copies for personal use of music you already own or that's being broadcast freely over the airwaves is one thing, doing it to make permanent copies of music from a streaming service where the royalties to the artists are paid per stream/play is another. |
Wow... dgarreson,you answered some questions in that single response about Tidal streaming and hi rez files! I was going to start a whole new disscusion of the "How To" transfer streaming music into a lossless digital hi res portable media players,( e.g.Fiio x5,Cayin N3).Because these players do in fact have built in DACs.So I may have just cut out a few "Third Parties" in reaching my final quest.. |
@zyac39 Well, I guess I raised more questions than I answered. Several hours after copying that file into my NAS for replay through the Roon core, the file and its folder mysteriously evaporated! However, it still resides on the PC to which I originally transferred it from the digital recorder. So for the moment it looks like Tidal and MQA have thought this through. I surmise that it may be possible to keep such copies alive on a device that doesn't ping the net-- but there are precious few of those. |
A quick Google search gave me this Not tried it as not something I want or need to do but may be of help https://www.apowersoft.com/record-tidal-music.html |
