Takes one to know one


I find what one artist has to say about another fascinating. Here's what Eric Clapton has to say about one such:

"I met the genius of that outfit, who was Richard Manuel. He was as close to genius as I've ever met in a white guy---all the other geniuses I've met have been black Blues players, like B.B. and Buddy Guy. The reason I say they're geniuses is that they do what they do effortlessly with a gift that is so powerful that they don't need to engage in any kind of thinking to pursue it."

I would add Levon Helm, Rick Danko, Garth Hudson, and even Robbie Robertson (somewhat begrudgingly ;-), the other members of The Band, to the list of geniuses. There has never been, and never again will be, a Group containing so much talent. I listen to their music every single day of my life, and have done so for years. Their debut and second album are in my Top 10 albums of all-time list. Both are available on LP and SACD from Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs. Ignore them at the cost of your own musical wealth!

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@ghosthouse, isn't "Whispering Pines" about as good as singing gets? Richard's death devastated me.

Thanks everyone for joining me in celebrating this most unusual and amazing group of writers, singers, and players. I added the joke about Robbie against my better judgment; the subject of his actions is a matter of great contention, and if it weren’t for the fact that they played a major role in the contributing to The Band’s downward spiral (both professionally and personally) I could let it go. I won’t go into it here, but one ends up taking either Levon’s side of the story, or Robbie’s.

I haven’t read Robbie’s book, but I have a copy of Levon’s, autographed by he on the day of it’s release at the book release event held at Book Soup on Sunset Blvd. Ringo was there too, and got his copy autographed as well. In response to the claims made by Levon, John Simon (producer of the first two albums, and writer of the horn arrangements for The Last Waltz), and others, Robbie made this statement: "I did what I had to do." ’Bout says it all, don’t it?

For a member of a successful band/group to go on to have a successful solo career is very rare. A group benefits from the members’ combined talents, no one of them having enough talent on his own to make for a solo career. After The Beatles changed the world, bands/groups were expected to write, sing, and play---three separate talents. Before them, the best songwriters did just that---only. The best singers did that---only. The best players did that---only. In the group dynamic, you didn’t necessarily get all three.

Along comes The Band. Not only were they as good as any group around, but their individual talents were as good as any of the professionals doing only one of the above. Richard Manuel was as good a singer as any solo artist, Levon Helm as good a drummer as the guys in the L.A., New York, Memphis, and Nashville studios, Rick Danko a brilliant bass player, Robbie Robertson a very tasteful song-part guitar player, and Garth Hudson maybe the best keyboardist in the history of Rock ’n’ Roll.

After hearing Levon’s drumming, Ringo sounded flat-footed (compare his playing in The Last Waltz to that of Levon’s). After hearing Richard Manuel sing, John Lennon sounded weak and thin, McCartney lacking gravitas. Paul sounded almost like an average bass player after hearing Rick Danko’s inventive style. Rick Danko, a farm boy from Canada, was as good as the best in the world---James Jamerson, Motown’s bass player. By the time of the Band’s debut, The Beatles writing had lost it’s "magic". For me, anyway.

The Band had raised the bar so high, they were so brilliant in every way, that I now found the mediocrity in most other groups to be killing my interest in them. I now looked for songs written by the "best" songwriters, singing by the best singers, and playing by the best musicians (by that I mean those who were the best ensemble players, not virtuosos). Funny, for me it was now back to how it was before The Beatles. They had changed everything---no more producer putting a singer in a studio to record a song written by a pro writer and played by studio musicians. Except now, it was the vision of the solo songwriter/singer, not the producer, I was interested in.

And so it has remained all these years. I seek out music by the best songwriters, sung in the "best" way (best having nothing to do with range, pitch control, etc.), and accompanied by the best musicians. All my current music acquisitions are albums by solo artists, not groups. My favorite songwriters are rarely a member of a group/band, my favorite singers rarely in a group/band. If the songwriter and/or singer in a group was a "better" writer or singer, he wouldn’t need to be in a group. Ironically, all the result of The Band---the ultimate group!

@onhwy61, I agree about a band sharing songwriting credits, even though it’s a rather Communist idea ;-). The Ramones did it, I’m sure there are others.

Levon Helm’s argument was that the instrumental parts he and the others created for The Band’s songs, and his and the other’s ideas for arrangements (listen to the out-takes of their albums to hear how the songs developed and changed in the studio) were just as much a part of the song as were the chords and melody. Levon’s drum parts are chock full of signature "hooks", parts without which the songs were incomplete.

I don’t begrudge Robertson being a business man; more power to him. What I do find objectionable is the way he deliberately mislead and manipulated both the other members of The Band and John Simon, producer of the first two Band albums. Robertson came to Simon and asked him to write charts for the horn section The Band wanted for The Last Waltz. Simon hadn’t received a royalty check from Capitol Records for years, and told Robbie he was not doing any more work for which he would receive no compensation. Robertson said he would look into the matter, and came back to John with an offer: if he agreed to forfeit all future royalties from the sale of the two Band albums he produced, Capitol would pay all past royalties due him. Simon balked at that idea, but Robbie, according to John, told him that he would make a lot more money from The Last Waltz album and movie than he would from future sales of the first two Band albums. John said okay.

What John and the other members of The Band didn’t know was that Robbie was signing agreements with the company that was financing the movie, agreements making Robbie an executive producer of movie. All the producers made money off the top of the movie’s grosses, The Band members and John Simon off the net. After all production costs, advertising, etc., there was very little left. Robertson ended up making a small fortune off the movie, John Simon and The Band a pittance. Robbie KNEW that would be the case, and knowingly tricked, manipulated, John Simon into signing away his future royalties for what he, Robertson, knew would be very little. All to make himself as much money as possible, at the cost of Simon and The Band. When Robbie said "I did what I had to do", he is admitting as much.

I’ll be darned, Al! John did a fantastic job producing the first two Band albums. The third (Stage Fright) was done by Todd Rundgren, an odd choice it seemed to me then and now. It was a major disappointment after the incredible first and second, and when the fourth was also not up to snuff, we all wondered if John was in actuality the 6th member of The Band! He made a solo album sometime in the 70’s, which I somehow missed. Gotta get a copy of it---Eric.

@jond, isn’t "It Makes No Difference" as beautiful a song as you’ve ever heard?! I love Rick’s voice, it’s so unique. I love how he sang "Long Black Veil---a Lefty Frizzell song (Rick loved Country music)---on Music From Big Pink. As were Levon’s and Richard’s. Three lead singers! The way their voiced weave in and out amongst each others, trading verses, even lines. In The Last Waltz, Robbie cited The Staple Singers as their model for how to arrange vocals. The three singers did that, not Robbie.

The Band’s roots were SO deep; Hillbilly, Country, Cajun, Blues, Rock ’n’ Roll, Gospel, Pop, Jazz, Classical (Garth was a trained musician). The five members had been playing together as an ensemble for eight years before making their first album. Most bands whole lifespan is less than that! And they were all multi-instrumentalists. Levon played not only drums, but guitar, mandolin, and harmonica. Rick bass, guitar, and tuba. Richard was a FANTASTIC drummer, almost as good as Levon. And Garth Hudson, the most unlikely person to join a Rock ’n’ Roll Band, played all keyboards, as well as sax. Robbie was (I guess still is) a wonderful guitarist. Can’t sing worth a damn, though.

@dragunski, I heard Music From Big Pink when it was released, but didn’t "get" it---it was over my head. It troubled me that I didn’t, as the smartest guys I knew loved it. It wasn’t until I saw and heard Dewey Martin (drummer of Buffalo Springfield) play and sing in The New Buffalo (he being the lone BS band member left) in the Summer of '69 that I had my life-changing epiphany, right as I watched he and his bandmates perform. Dewey was the first studio musician (BS enticed him away from session work) I saw and heard live, and it was a real education. I gave MFBP another listen soon after, and now understood what all the fuss was about. Halleluiah, I had seen the light! When the second Band album came out, I was primed for it.

Robbie didn't withhold John Simon's royalty payments, Capitol Records did. It's amazing how often that happens in the music business. When The Dixie Chicks had the number one album in the world, they weren't receiving their checks from Sony. Their lawyer was told in essence "We don't pay royalties. If you want your money, you'll have to sue us to get it." So they did, and got a real nice settlement, including their own boutique label. Bands that don't have the money to fight their record company get screwed ALL THE TIME. What you don't expect, is to get screwed by another artist.

John Simon hadn't seen the guys since he had done the brown album with them, seven years before The Last Waltz. He had no idea what Robertson had been doing in regards to songwriting credits, etc. Lawyers are expensive (no duh), and guys like John Simon, on the fringes of the music business, don't have a need for or the means to pay one. Guys like Robertson, savvy and selfish, know how to pull a con (a real good one can even get himself elected President of The United States ;-). It's easy to fault John Simon for letting Robbie take advantage of his naivete', but John had no reason to suspect he was being set up.

Good points, one and all. onhwy61, all The Band albums are quality, but the first two get all the attention because they were so revolutionary and ground-breaking. Plus, they had no filler songs---it was all Grade A material. The last album had only eight songs, four per LP side---not a good sign from a band known, in the age of overly-long jam songs, for short, concise songs. There were some great songs on it, but some not-so-great. Some of them just meandered on, filling space.

They did a fun album of the material they had played in their Bar Band days---Moondog Matinee, all 1950’s-type songs. And a great live album, plus one when they accompanied Dylan on the road in ’74. The 3rd and 4th have some fantastic songs---Richard’s duet with Van Morrison on "4% Pantomime" kills.

But Richard was developing a drinking problem, and was finding himself unable to write anymore. Levon was harboring a lot of resentment towards Robbie, which affected band morale. Robbie’s lyrics were becoming self-conscious and calculated, and, just like The Beatles, it felt like they went on past their "sell by" date; it felt like the wind was no longer in their sails, they were just going through the motions. They sounded tired, which they may have been---Garth was over 40 years old, the others not much younger. Rock ’n’ Roll is a young man’s game. I’m just thankful they’re not up there making fools of themselves as are Mick and Keith ;-).

They sure left a legacy, didn’t they? All the people in the Americana movement and scene acknowledge The Band as their model for how to make music. All my favorite writers, singers, and musicians work in The Band’s shadow, benefitting from their excellence. Nick Lowe said his band Brinsley Schwartz was an attempt---a poor one, in his opinion---to be England’s The Band. Neil Young’s Harvest album was an obvious attempt to make an album like The Band’s 2nd/Brown album. You also hear The Band in Workingman’s Dead; problem was, nobody in The Dead could sing!

Great post, @tostadosunidos. I met Levon only once, at his book signing. He was the last man on Earth who would have "gotten above his raisin'". I saw him with his own band at The House Of Blues after his throat surgery (for the cancer---he was a heavy smoker---which eventually killed him), unable to sing. He had his daughter on stage with him, and she's a fine singer herself.

You got to play with Rick Danko! I'm green with envy. There is a girl doing a "Friends Of Rick Danko" Facebook page, and a guy doing one for Richard. They both are posting all kinds of pictures and videos, really cool stuff.

Thanks, @thelid. I had read this long ago, but printing it here is a great idea. It explains The Band's downward spiral real well. There are a couple of places I want to make it to before I die, Big Pink being at the top of the list.
@2channel8, I saw Carney when it was in the theaters, and thought Robbie did pretty good. Levon appeared in a number of movies, doing a fine job in Coal Miner's Daughter (playing Loretta Lynn's daddy) and The Right Stuff (playing the plane maintenance man, who offers Sam Shepard a piece of gum), both really good movies. Carny was not so hot.