That is true.
But also is true then that we would all be stuck with Tandy and Radioshack pieces if we did not let curiosity out of the bag now and again..... |
Perhaps I could have phrased it better
Yes I can change the tone/ sound with a different cart or phono stage but that’s not what I am asking.
What makes a better TT than I already have and why?
What features would be improved upon and how much will that cost?
Better motor?
Better platter?
I mean I know there are considerably more expensive TT out there so what/where do I need to be looking? |
Move the rug.... the wife would not approve.... lol
its a pretty old model and dark might be fitting but very detailed with the present cartridge. The shelter 501 it came with did not suit my ears at all |
Why might an idler drive TT be superior to what I have?
I am a little surprised that nobody has come forward with their particular TT of choice and giving some good solid reasons for choice of same.
Definitely not going to splurge any moolah without some basis for what I can potentially expect. |
Noromance.
Where my speakers are right now gives me best presentation overall. Moving out to tile loses some focus and depth of vocals.
Right now they are spiked to 2 inch maple block's which in turn are spiked right through the carpet to the tile underneath. |
Thx Noromance.
Budget is not a huge issue IF there is a worthwhile gain to be had.
Although I listen to a lot of digital via streaming etc I still love to spin vinyl, I do not even try to compare the two, just too different imho.
Sidebar answer.
I love the flexibility and convenience of the touchscreen and being able to a-b two TT instantly. Did not crack and spend 1k on a power supply but it is fed through my equicore 1800 conditioner.
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@lewm
Thank you and I guess I should explain what I mean by "why".
Not asking why will it sound better but why might the technology of a different TT help better the SQ of my present TT.
And yes I fully realise it is all still down to personal preference but with prices of TT running many thousands above mine I am genuinely curious.
You mention dd, something like Denon DP 3000 or similar?
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So the majority so far appear to consider not changing my TT but for odd reasons imho.
Not because it is the best already but because I should just not upgrade. Maybe they are right but there would be very little progress or evolvement if we did not make changes along the way. Sure I have already made my fair share of backwards changes but mostly in speakers so far.
Or so far nobody can really give me a good reason or model to upgrade too.
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So are we saying that DD and idler drive maybe better tech than belt drive? |
It would be quite a boring world and not much of an adventure if we all followed that admittedly sage advice.
Fortunately I am inclined to explore and tinker, it's my nature. |
@lewm
Have been reading up on the dp80 and it is certainly highly regarded from my perusal.
However the majority of the ones I see for sale are Japanese market at 100v.
Any detriment to running one of these with a 120 to 100v step down transformer?
I am sure someone else must have done this with Japanese market equipment
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Bit the bullet on a Denon DP-1250 cw Infinity Black Widow arm and 103d cart.
We will see how this pans out.
My phono allows for instant switching between 2 inputs both configured independently.
It should give me some interesting times. |
Thinking it will be very wise to keep my present TT setup BUT dip my toes into the vintage DD word with possibly a slightly cheaper model to start with, just as an alternative.
Present models I am looking at include Denon, dp-3000, DP-72, DP-1250 , Pioneer PL71
We will see....
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jperry
I would agree that the 103d is not the perfect match for the Black Widow but that is what is included so that is why I mentioned it.
I did read some reports on the black widow and carts that should work well with it and will have to go back and find them to get some better ideas for a good matching cart.
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Quick look back through my history.
Yes the ADC ZLM was one, Grado Platinum too, Shure V15VMR as a few.
From what I understand I will need a high compliance cart in the weight range of 5 to 8 grams to stand a chance of the best match?
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Thx Jperry.
Looks like vinylengine, eBay and the Gon will be my best friends in researching best cart for this arm.
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2psyop
Sorry you feel that way.
Not all suggestions can be winners obviously!
No I do not want everybody to do my work for me, that is a silly statement.
Rather I prefer to take counsel from more experienced members and research from there.
I thought that is part of what these forums were for? To help, share and guide other members.
If my usage of them for that purpose offends you I am truly sorry.
After a number of members suggested a vintage DD might be worth a try, some by pm, that is the avenue I decided to pursue.
However I decided not to replace my present TT but experiment with a slightly cheaper version than the dp80 as a toe in the water.
We will see.
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The Denon showed up this morning and have it spinning tunes right now.
Nothing much to dislike about it apart from I feel the dl103d cart is not the best choice but hey that is what it came with.
It is definitely brighter with less bass than my NA rig but that could be as much the cart.
Next move will be deciding on a good suitable mm cart... Or two ... Lol. |
Well after some tweaking of arm and cart setup on the Denon I can see why the dl103d is so popular.
It has bloomed nicely from the tweaking, bass has more depth, more air and separation. Overall a pretty good budget cart that came with tt so hard to complain.
And after looking at specs on VinylEngine it is really not a bad match for the arm.
However I will be trying out some vintage mm carts on this table along the lines of Pickering, Shure, ADC etc.
Its fun to have new toys and at the price point of vintage mm carts not the end of the world. |
