Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
jafant

Showing 3 responses by james63

As others have posted I too am casually looking to upgrade my 10 year old 2.4CS speakers. I took a pretty long break from audio. I just picked up other hobbies but I am starting to get the bug again (used headphones for a year or two in there too).  

Anyway after a hand full of demos of speakers costing at lot more I came home to feel they were simply a side step from my Thiels in some ways and that I would be paying a lot of money for slightly more resolution in the upper mids/highs. I did find the new speakers with new tweeter designs to be a good bit better in the highs though. More air and less matter of fact kind of detail I get from the Thiels. 

I should mention I run two JL audio e112 subs actively crossed over at 50hz and it takes the Thiels to a whole new level. They are cheap and plenty good enough for the 2.4 or 3.7s. Well worth a try for any thiel owner with a large room. 

The other day I listened to a pair of b&w 802D3 for just a song or two and the bass was not as good as the slam or quality I get from my 2.4s with subs. The highs and mids were very detailed, almost hyper detailed but my ears gave up fast and I tagged out. I will not be buying B&Ws, just too bright and a little unnatural sounding. 

A long time ago I got the older b&w 802D2 in the same room same system as a pair of thiel 3.7s and I remember the 802D2s bass being stronger so adding subs has greatly changed my Thiels and should not be over looked if you don’t mind the extra wires and clutter. 

I also tried the sonus faber olympica iii on classes amps this week for a few songs for something different and while nice they did not inspire me. They look amazing though but for $13,000 they are pretty meh. Might still be worth a real audition as my dealer is super close and I like to work with them if possible but first impression is that they are over priced. 

My dealer has the paradigm personas on the floor. Not sure the models but one set was $35k-ish and the other was $10k so I might give them a try. I don’t like the plastic look of them though. Maybe with my subs I could get away with the $10k model. 

I am playing with the idea of buy a pair of wilsons used. I always liked the Sophia 3 and Sasha and used they are now in my price range. I also might try to run down a pair of focal sopra 2s to try. 

I have kind of gotten out of audio and I am much more sensible on what I want to spend. I am probably looking at around $10k, new or used and will be keeping the subs in the system. 

My other local dealer carries revels and has the salon 2 and F228be on the floor so I will try those too. Last time I heard the salon 2 I was impressed but non engaged emotionally. Not sure why. 

At this point my demos have just made me appreciate how good the 2.4s are for the money or maybe my priorities have changed enough that little improvements don’t impress me these days. 

pwhinson73 

I heard the 3.7 and 2.4 in the same room same system one time. It was a long time ago so I can’t talk to specific details and keep in mind audio memory is poor...

The most noticeable thing is the 3.7s is more detailed in the mids and highs.

The 3.7s did not seem to play any deeper to me but probably have more over head to play louder if needed. I did not play them loud as I don’t listen that way but I am sure with the aluminum front and top the box is less noisy. Not that I noticed noise from the 2.4. 

All in all the tonal balance is about the same so going to the 3.7s will not give you “move” bass unless the room gain is giving it or the 2.4s are simply just playing too hard due to a big room. The 3.7 might have more bass texture but I don’t remember. 

The 3.7s filled a big room with no issues but did not have the bass authority of the Sophia 3 I heard in the same time (same room/system). 

The sound stage was crazy stable and wide on the 3.7. The width almost seemed endless. This was a very large demo room with great acoustics. It made the 2.4s sound a little small in direct comparison. 

Anyd2

I would guess around $8,000. I am speaker shopping now and nothing in the $8,000-$13,000 range has stood out as better. Just different (some worse). 

I have owned the 2.4 for about 10 years and I feel that you need to be shopping in the $15,000 range to better the 2.4s at today’s pricing. 

Now I am looking to buy speakers used that new would be $20k- $30k and hope to pick them up for $10-$15k. I have given up the idea of buying new speakers for $10,000 or less.