Folks, as it so happens, I had a pair of Velodyne HGS-10 subs. Yes, a PAIR. I experimented with many locations...stereo, opposite walls, 1/3 wall, staggered, etc. I ended up stacking them and placing the stack just outside of a corner. Even played with a Behringer (very difficult learning curve).
Gmood1, what I meant to say is that there's hardly ANY out-of-phase information in the low bass regions where subs operate, and even if there is, it's NON-DIRECTIONAL...ie...it makes no difference. There is NO imaging at frequencies that low. If somebody thwacks a 50hz bass drum note, the imaging will come from the over-80hz transients located in your MAINS, and not the sub.
And btw, the Velodyne HGS series play with undetectable distortion in the first place, so the addition of the second sub served merely to increase overhead. The pair of HGS-10's has been replaced with a single DD-10, which will soon be upgraded to a DD-12.
Wc65mustang, my system is indeed high end enough to be able to discern a difference IF there was one. There wasn't. And my subs were as properly integrated as experimentation allowed. If I should ever decide to experiment with two subs again, I'll have YOU come over to demonstrate your special integration skills, but only if I can blindfold you to see if you can detect a difference. :)
On 99% of cd's, low bass out-of-phase info just isn't there...period.
Gmood1, what I meant to say is that there's hardly ANY out-of-phase information in the low bass regions where subs operate, and even if there is, it's NON-DIRECTIONAL...ie...it makes no difference. There is NO imaging at frequencies that low. If somebody thwacks a 50hz bass drum note, the imaging will come from the over-80hz transients located in your MAINS, and not the sub.
And btw, the Velodyne HGS series play with undetectable distortion in the first place, so the addition of the second sub served merely to increase overhead. The pair of HGS-10's has been replaced with a single DD-10, which will soon be upgraded to a DD-12.
Wc65mustang, my system is indeed high end enough to be able to discern a difference IF there was one. There wasn't. And my subs were as properly integrated as experimentation allowed. If I should ever decide to experiment with two subs again, I'll have YOU come over to demonstrate your special integration skills, but only if I can blindfold you to see if you can detect a difference. :)
On 99% of cd's, low bass out-of-phase info just isn't there...period.