For Metralla. I know people who claims the same as you. I just quoted Sugdens words regarding SACD (the deaf thing). He gave up SACD very fast. I've heard SACD on the Sony 777 many times as well, and both the owner and I hate SACD. Another friend of mine who is really into digital and build his own stuff (he is quite a talent) told me, that he hated SACD too and claimed that this media is low technology even compared to red books. This statement I can not tell anything about, since I know very little about digital in general. However, we are some guys here in Copenhagen who actually have some pretty nice stuff, ex. we all play at beryllium and build most of our gear ourself and all of us think that SACD sucks. Stuff we are playing at is TAD, GOTO, WADIA, Krell Reference series, AN Kondo, EMT, SP10, Garrard, home made hyper triode amps and more. Hope this list gives you an idea about my words. thanks, Tadman