whats your idea of loud music.


ok here' what got me thinking about all of this.

i was in a dealers show room a while back checking out his ar monoblocks(sweet)& he put some smooth jazz on for me,the maggies sounded fantastic & i asked him to turn it up to a loud volume so i could see how the maggies responded.

after he gave me a stupid look he turned it up a notch & then stepped away & covered his ears like they might rupture or something & were talking about the volume being at the point where i could of heard him fart from 5 feet away,i asked him why he wouldnt turn it up loud & he told me that he wasnt sure what i thought loud was but the volume he had was more than enough for anybody.

i also see threads where guys reccomend these low power amps that i have owned with speakers i have owned & they say that the amp speaker combination can obtain listening levels that are not only louder than anybody would care to listen but unsafe levels to boot & when i had the same gear i thought the combination was way under powered & no where near being loud.

i consider loud to be when you can feel as well as hear the music & not from sitting right in front of the rig,i also consider loud to be when things on the walls move & my coffee cup has a little ripple on top of the coffee or when the dog runs for cover,i also consider it to be not loud if somebody in the same room can talk to you from 5 feet away & be heard.

im not looking for a right or wrong answer im just curious as to what other guys consider loud to be defined as.

mike.
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I don't know if I agree 100% w/ Bigjoe. There are guys who used to gun their bikes up and down our (deserted) quiet street at 2 in the AM when the nearby biker bar "The Bashful Bandit" closed. We (residents) cured that recently when the City of Tucson installed speed bumps deciding no doubt, it was cheaper than patrol cars being called all the time; now we can get some sleep!

As for audio, I honestly can't understand why anyone would want to play something at a volume in excess of what the source would produce in reality. (I realize this is a little more difficult to determine with rock performances, and you sort of have to decide where in the "stadium" you want to imagine yourself :~)

Nevertheless, I think dialing in the volume just right to obtain what you believe is the actual performance level, not too loud, not too soft, is an art, and requires some real listening skills.

I also want to say I think there is some merit to Sean and Alpha's comments RE: the quality of reproduction v. volume v. auditory damage, but only up to a point! I'm in my sixth decade, and I know I've lost my hi freq acuity, but I can still hear almost the whole Cardas sweep track if I turn the hi freq. portion way WAY up, ha Ha!

Which brings me, apropo of Alpha and Bigjoe's remarks, to share something I've read about, but never tried -- and which this thread has inspired me to do: apparently a certain amount of lost auditory acuity can be restored by wearing ear plugs for prolonged periods when hearing isn't important to you, ie not when driving and not when sleeping (don't want to miss that smoke alarm!) Supposedly, after doing this for even a few days, your hearing ability is very much improved. Which means that a part of the problem may have to do with overloaded neural circuits and not overloaded eardrums! Anyway, I'm going to try it, and report back.

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Joe
I'd have your hearing checked. Being that you ride a Motorcycle, you may have sustained some damage over the years unless you've worn hearing protection. I can't stand loud music which is why I don't go to concerts of any type.
"I've always considered loud to be when I start having trouble hearing myself talk."

Yes... and it is times like this that i don't know what I'm talking about.
Nsgarth , from my experience anybody riding a bike home from a bar let alone at 2 am is a moron & will very soon be wraped around a tree & i do not feel sorry when that happens,only the biggest of fool's ride's a bike drunk,if that was happening down my street i would throw nail's in the street & flaten their stupid lookin micky thompson rear tire's.

Tab11os, not only do i ride a loud bike & listen to loud music but i work on very loud construction site's & i alway's thought i may have some type of hearing loss until last year when i had to take a hearing test to be a certified crane operator within the auto manufacturing plant's here in michigan,to my suprise my hearing is perfect,go figure,i hope it stay's that way too.

mike.
Joe -- good heavens! I didn't want to kill anyone, just get some sleep! And I didn't say the bikers were drunk, how the hell would I know?

No, the speed bumps definitely did the trick. They stopped all activity, not just one guy. Nobody died, and I didn't have to buy any nails!