Where to go from XP-15? XP-17? XP-25?


I've been happy with the XP-15 for a number of years - first supporting my modded AR ES-1, then a VPI Classic 3, and now my Avenger (my final stop, I hope). I love the fine adjustability of MC loading and the gain which will support running carts down to about .2 mV. But with the Avenger I think I've reached a point where I should consider a move, in part because everything I find about the XP-25 seems to indicate it is far and away an improvement over the XP-15. With the inclusion of the XP-17, however, I'm now a little hesitant.

I run two arms on the Avenger, so it might suggest going to the XP-25 is an easy decision, plus the well regarded sound quality (I've heard the 25 a number of times, but not in my own system). OTOH the XP-17 is based on some of the same technology that's in the XP-25, plus it's a one box solution (I kind of like that). The questions out there for anyone who can help - has anyone been able to compare the XP-17 to the XP-25? How do they sound compared to each other? Would the XP-17 be considered a step up or at least equal to the XP-25? If the XP-17 is generally considered a must try next to the 25, I can always run it face into the rack and keep the back end exposed for tonearm and loading changes (not pretty, but effective).

I'm also a little concerned about any change in sound from the previous generation Pass gear to the new (12, 22, 17, 27). I've read, for example, multiple views back and forth between the .5 and .8 series amps, a few saying Pass' reduction in negative feedback and modification to the second harmonic character in the .8 are not to their liking. I hadn't heard if there's been such a (perceived) change in the small signal Pass devices.
tonyptony

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Raul, have you had a chance to hear the 17 by comparison? There's no doubt in my mind the XP-25 is better than my 15, but I haven't gotten a clear sense of the 17 yet. 
Yes, Mark has helped me over the years with my current Pass gear. I'll have to give him a call, but it's always good to try and get additional thoughts from folks who've had an opportunity to hear this stuff. 
Bocchino Tomahawks

Well, that's a new one for me. I've never heard of these. What are they? Also, did you do all this work yourself? If so, was any of it exceptionally difficult? I do have some ability in doing circuit work up to an including SMT devices.

Yes, used. I can’t swing a new XP-27! :-) But I’m still trying to see if there’s anyone out there with firsthand experience comparing the 25 to the 17.