Which area of components to spend the most $ on? Boy I was wrong all my life!


I have been an audio junkie for about 25 years. All those years, I have read plenty of discussion posts and recommendations where to spend the most money on. The majority, even the experts recommend to spend the most money on speakers. Up to as high as 60% of the total budget.Example: CEO of PS Audio-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYwL7vPkPhg
I believed this all my life. Today, my eyes are opened. My total budget is about $15K.Before today, my system was:Speakers-Revel F36 Concerta 2 (For the money, this is the best speakers I’ve heard. I like it more than my previous Dynaudio Contour 30)Integrated Amp-Marantz PM-10 (Class D, balanced, 400wpc at 4ohms)CD Player-Oppo UDP 205 & Marantz CD 6005 (Some of the best in class)Line conditioner-Furman Elite PFi 15Cables-Kimber 8TC Speaker Cables (Sorry, not a cable nut. I’d rather spend money elsewhere)
I upgraded my front end CD player to... Marantz SA-11S3. I was BLOWN away! This is the greatest upgrade I have ever heard in my life. For 25 years, I was taught to spend the most in speakers. Sorry! It’s the FRONT END! The best source you can afford. The purity transcends down the river. I am blown away by the sheer improvement in detail, clarity, depth, the air around the instruments.
My philosophy has changed.
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Speakers play the music...gotta be good!  NSOTA in source can be had relatively cheap these days.  Also, many great integrated amps available as well.  As for cables, they are ubiquitous and can also be had reasonably.  
In some sense, looking at this issue from a pure monetary standpoint or percentages, can be misleading.  There are plenty of overpriced components and ancillaries that can throw off the margins quite a bit.  Quality can be found at various price points, while finding the right synergy between components and the environment will always be the most elusive part of this pastime!  
Case in point...I was looking for a bit more clarity and presence from my system , but I was not going down the rabbit hole again for the 100th time!  Been burned big time on some of my costlier cable solutions in the past, so this time I set my sites on value, quality and good design.  I looked around quite a bit and came across the new Audioquest Water XLR Interconnects. Based on some reviews they sounded like what I needed.  Coincidentally, there was a new pair for sale on Agon for just over $300....list is like $549 or more depending on length of course.  I’m running them in now and have found them to be amazingly full, warm and clear with great dynamic swing.  Highs sound cleaner without loosing the bottom end weight of my MIT’s.  Midrange is a bit livelier and expressive as well.  A really world class Interconnect for a steal, even at list price.  I’ve had $12k interconnects that were honestly not any better, and lots of $4k - $6k offerings that were worse!
@eisen0169....obviously someone out there has a brain!  Well said.  All the voodoo in the world thought up by GK will not help you obtain better sound. 
You also have that annoying quality of wanting to get the last witticism in....he tasks me!
Clearthink is a misnomer.  I’ve gone down the hole and back again.  Kippy’s work on interstellar was either ignored or he was on something when they asked for his help.  What let down that hot mess was!
Sagan understood our place in the universe and offered us a cohesive, instructive and inspirational vision for our future.  GK offers voodoo
Your madcap, pseudo intellectual humor, mixed with an occasional flourish of mysticism is pointless.  I grow weary of your predictably repetitive Shtick!  
The Police offer us some insight regarding our Audio Obsession:

With one breath, with one flow
You will know
Synchronicity

A sleep trance, a dream dance,
A shared romance,
Synchronicity

A connecting principle,
Linked to the invisible
Almost imperceptible
Something inexpressible.
Science insusceptible
Logic so inflexible
Causally connectible
Yet nothing is invincible.

If we share this nightmare
Then we can dream
Spiritus mundi.

If you act, as you think,
The missing link,
Synchronicity.

We know you, they know me
Extrasensory
Synchronicity.

A star fall, a phone call,
It joins all,
Synchronicity.

It's so deep, it's so wide
Your inside
Synchronicity.

Effect without a cause
Sub-atomic laws, scientific pause
Synchronicity


We are the universe become aware!  BTW, Sagan was one of my idols growing up.  Own all his books...he was truly inspired.
Remember it?  Your kidding, right?  You have made it an art form you crazy sun a beach 🏖 
Jeepers, you studied astrophysics?  Wow, you must understand so much more stuff than practically anyone else.  We are so blessed to have your insights here on AGon.  So tell us something illuminating and insightful.  We need you so desperately to shed light on the mysteries of life!
Yes, Kat...we understand the difference.  It was fiction.  Why are you even fixating on such a trivial detail?  If you have something interesting to say or can elaborate politely on a given subject, please do so.  Smarmy usually masks smart...so why the games?  Just converse cogently and make sense.  I would love to hear some insights that you may have obtained over the years if they are relevant and help move the conversation forward.  Random bursts of Katino waves are of little value and only create a sterile and unproductive atmosphere.     
The sad thing is that we had a nice conversation going until Katmandu made an appearance.  
I’m checking out of this looney tunes episode!  Bada bada bada that’s all folks 
Never thought I’d do this, but...hey GKait!  Gotta riddle for ya.  I changed out the jumpers on my speakers, MIT tails (12”) for NRG Omega’s (already owned) and not only did the resolution increase dramatically, but the PRaT improved as well.  My amp seems even more dynamic and full sounding in addition to the increase in clarity and air.  Why?
I replaced the MIT Magnum jumpers on my Totem Signatures with the NBS jumpers.  The MIT’s were fairly long for a jumper and the NBS’s are fairly short and solid core wire.  The difference in sound was quite dramatic!
The improvement was on the level of adding a great tube preamp...more extension and air with better dynamic contrast.
A bad cable can make a great component sound mundane.  Everything matters...no free lunch!