Why Power Cables Affect Sound


I just bought a new CD player and was underwhelmed with it compared to my cheaper, lower quality CD player. That’s when it hit me that my cheaper CD player is using an upgraded power cable. When I put an upgraded power cable on my new CD player, the sound was instantly transformed: the treble was tamed, the music was more dynamic and lifelike, and overall more musical. 

This got me thinking as to how in the world a power cable can affect sound. I want to hear all of your ideas. Here’s one of my ideas:

I have heard from many sources that a good power cable is made of multiple gauge conductors from large gauge to small gauge. The electrons in a power cable are like a train with each electron acting as a train car. When a treble note is played, for example, the small gauge wires can react quickly because that “train” has much less mass than a large gauge conductor. If you only had one large gauge conductor, you would need to accelerate a very large train for a small, quick treble note, and this leads to poor dynamics. A similar analogy might be water in a pipe. A small pipe can react much quicker to higher frequencies than a large pipe due to the decreased mass/momentum of the water in the pipe. 

That’s one of my ideas. Now I want to hear your thoughts and have a general discussion of why power cables matter. 

If you don’t think power cables matter at all, please refrain from derailing the conversation with antagonism. There a time and place for that but not in this thread please. 
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Showing 10 responses by elizabeth

SO the non magnetic part... It has to either suck up the RFI EMI radiation around it. or?           
Since there is no 'acting at a distance' all it can be doing is passively 'doing' to whatever comes it's way. Or is the claim that the passive device IS acting at a distance 'magically' affecting other things? Like certain 'Tele' tweaks? Certain Chips? mysterious powers... Ohhhhh...
I think it is way more like playing tug of war.. Except the rope is going in 237 different direction including up down sideways and several hidden dimensions .. all at once. Plus it clearly is passing through at least one Black Hole....
HEY! FINALLY someone has the guts to mention "phooby dust"!
I know it is an embarrassing topic.. but hey we all might get phooby dusted.... NOT ME! NEVER.. NO way.. BUT I know someone who knew somebody... It was really bad...
Geoff. Can you point to a multi meter which can actually measure a tenth of an ohm or better, and you can see it doing so... and is ’cheap’? 
Not a criticism, just a real query.
I would repeat, the change in what a power cord does is not find-able with the current sort of measurements any folks are doing. The sad thing is, the measurement folks THINK they are making every measurement possible, or even imaginable. Like they have solved every mystery in the Universe already. When I make a comment about the speed of the wave, or the thickness or fuzziness  it is like I am speaking in Klingon. Right over the heads of the EE sorts, since no one has TOLD THEM such things might' exist??? SO I am again saying the things that matter, no one knows HOW to measure, nor thinks such measurements could even exist. Maybe some day some interested scientist will bother to study this, and find the way to measure it. Then suddenly all the folks who thought 'this cannot exist' will have their cake to eat. Until then, sorry you are blind. 
And yes I am sure this too is going to just be viewed as nonsense by the measure it or it does not exist types. No problem..
And what about when the new, exciting expensive gizmo fails, and is clearly no better, or even worthless? What then stevecham? All your notions of why... go right down the drain.  
I certainly have returned new ,expensive stuff because it failed to impress. Including DAC, interconnect, power cord.       
And kept stuff because yeah it is better.   

After years of experimenting with conditioners, power cords.. and of late outlets. I am claiming there is some undefined aspect I call the thickness. or tightness or density or fuzzyness no one has measured in the AC power, (because no one has LOOKED FOR IT) that CAN change what the miles if wired give you ... in the last two meters,Some day I hope my notion is discovered....
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I had a Hallelujah when I bought my first Pangea power cord              
I had a Hallelujah when I bought my Magnepan 3.6 nine years ago           
I had a Hallelujah when I bought my Adcom DA700 ten years ago.           
I had a Hallelujah when I bought my Kimber KS1116 wires                                    
I had a Hallelujah when I bought my Magnepan 20.7 speakers                 
I had a Hallelujah when I bought my Marantz SA-10                 
I had a Hallelujah when I bought my VAC Standard                  
I had a Hallelujah when I bought my Bryston BP-26                     
I had a Hallelujah when I bought my ARC SP-15               
I had a Hallelujah when I bought my Kuzma Stabi/Stogi S turntable                
I had a Hallelujah when I bought my Furutech AC duplex outlets         
I had a Hallelujah when I bought my ............            
And I am not even very religious! Except religious in keeping my recordings clean and shelved in order.
Noise and AC power.. Here is  bit I wrote about a few days ago, after testing my AC wit ha noise sniffer:                
Ok did all the baseline measurements.                 At wall, nothing plugged in a 20amp single on a separate breaker: Noise "724" .That line is one phase sharing common neutral with other phase 20 amp for refrigerator. I wondered how much of a problem that ’common neutral’ made. Well almost zero!          
The stereo line at wall with frig ’on’ noise "724" (frig off ’710’ frig break off noise "711" so the frig is a non starter of a problem. VERY good to know.)            
Plugging in the two lines made up of 12 gauge MilSpec silver plated quad twist Teflon 600V wire. grounds run between the two quads. 34 feet and 44 feet to stereo area. From the noise readings, it is clear the quad twist all by itself is removing a good amount of the hash from the line.            
At the 34’ line end Furutech duplex (no Noise Harvesters) noise "432" With two PS Audio Noise Harvesters in line a few feet ahead of duplex measured at, noise "006"        
The other line for the amp at 44’ (With two Noise Harvesters in a duplex four feet from the measured duplex) the noise level "001"(amp not plugged in. for those tests nothing was plugged into any outlests except the Noise Harvesters.          
So outstanding noise reduction from the wall ("724") down to ("006") and ("001") on my dedicated line from the wall to the stereo.              
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++          Plugging in the PS Audio P-600 power regenerator to the 34’ line changed the measurement at the Furutech outlet to "036" with P-600 ’on’ (nothing in use via P-600) With TWO CD changers also ON via the P-600 the noise at the Furutech 34’ outlet changed to "040" So I consider that wonderful performance. None (well ,very little to me is as good as none) of the considerable previously measured noise from the CD players is getting BACK to the outlet via the PA Audio P-600 regenerator.              
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++          Adding the Furman power conditioner OFF nothing plugged into the Furman noise measured at the same 34’ line Duplex "063" PLUS AM radio noise on the test instrument. (the PS Audio was also already plugged in and ON for this test. so the Furman alone added only ((023)) on it’s own to the noise level. When I turned ON the Furman REF 20 the noise dropped to "035" No AM radio noise anymore. (again, this is with the PS Audio plugged in too, so the Furman ON lowered the noise floor below what the PS Audio added. plus the Furman ON removed the AM radio noise on the line.)            
With Furman all electronics plugged on but those not turned on, only Furman turned on. At the 34" duplex noise measured "042"        
With all normal stereo equipment turned on the 34’ duplex measurement was noise "036" The items on included several preamps, and the Mrantz SA-10. (not turned on two Denon DVD players, The plasma TV. the Kuzma TT motor power supply I did not measure for those)            
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Small Adcom conditioner used for little stuff plugged in (with both big conditioners on at the 34’ duplex noise "060" plus AM radio noise.I removed the Adcom and substituted a Monster 5600 I own in it’s place, The Monster on with nothing plugged in gave at 34’ duplex "045" ... With all stuff plugged in in use (including the cable co boxes) measured at 34’ duplex "054" So I am leaving the Monster in           use.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++          
Finally my Audio Research SP-15 I had left plugged in at the 34’ box mainly due to the short cord. With it plugged in at the 34’ box at the 34’ box both conditioners in and on measured noise with Sp-15 in not ON "082" plus AM radio noise. ARC SP-15 ON measured "081" no AM radio noise. I removed the ARC SP-15 from that location and put back with extension cord to Furman. I did not measure anything when I did this.
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as of now, my Rega turntable power supply wall wart sits with no place to plugin. Orphaned when I decided to plug the two PS Audio Noise Harvesters into that spot it had used...  
Also I do not notice the downside of using the additional Noise Harvesters in the 34’ line. Previously I had them AT the two duplex on the end of the line. This time I moved them to the single duplex at the 31’ point.on the 34' line.. similar to the amplifier line. Why this matters??? seems to.  
I have no magic comments on this stuff at this time. I just wanted to report the number
After adding the last two PS Audio Noise Harvesters because they reduced that line noise to 006, my sound was a little lean. switching to a Furutech Rhodium plug set with DH Labs wire helped, but a bit too heavy then. Going back to the Pangea AC14XL nice and clear but a bit thin. Quandary. This one spot only. The Outlet to the Furman REF 20. Well I happened on the solution! I had another Furutech/DH Labs on the amp. Took that one off and put the Pangea AC14XL there. with the DH Labs on the Furman. Perfect.. just right sound. All you guys saying power cords are just power cords.  Really the only news here for normal audiophiles if the fact of having different cords let me adjust he sound to perfection. If I had all one model/brand. I would not have been able to adjust to such a fine degree.