Wilson Sasha 2 or Alexia for small room 10' x 17'?

I have had Sophias and later the WP7s and now Sashas in a  14 X 20 room. Going on 11 years with the WP/Sasha combo. They are simply perfect for my room. I get almost all, if not all, of the bass with very few room nodes and the presentation is all I could wish for. But guess what happens after 11 years of the same great presentation?
 Having heard the Alexias in a similar but slightly larger room, the sound with my amp and preamp was simply larger and more compelling all around with more impactful bass and more "you are there " or "they are here" feeling. I sometimes think about moving up. Having said that, I think I am near or on the edge of the minimum size room needed to do some justice to the Alexias.
 I think 10' depth (or width) does present a problem for a speaker the size of Alexia. That is, the margin of difference between the Sasha 2s and Alexias (about the same margin as between the Sabrinas and Sasha 2s) would be substantially reduced by the inability to get all that the Alexias can give. You will, on the other hand, get very much of what the Sasha 2s can deliver in your room vs the Sabrinas. The Sashas 2s are remarkable all around speakers at anywhere near their size and price range. 

Folkfreak is right. And you can, depending on the room, place Sashas as close as 1 foot to the rear wall. Also, you are right to ignore Audiotroy, a salesman for the ever-over-reaching and hyperbolic Audio Doctor who has shilled those speakers all over Audiogon. Trust me when I tell you, the Sashas are much better speakers than the Paradigm Persona 9H which are good for the $ but not in the Sasha's league and certainly not in the same universe as the Alexias.
You made the right choice.

The moderators have not stopped Audiotroy so I just chime in whenever he lays the sales pitch on a thread that I happen to come upon. I say this just so everybody knows. He usually comes back to tell everyone of his and his boss' years of expertise and how they believe the Personas are the best speakers for multiples of their cost in part because Paradigm uses drivers made from beryllium (which AT touts as the unquestioned best material for drivers---although not In Dave Wilson's mind who test listened to beryllium, diamond coated beryllium, the superb Scanspeak Revelator tweeter and countless others before he settled on the silk dome used in the Sasha 2, Alexia and others), how because Paradigm has lots of money for R&D (true as do countless others), or how they have heard them against other expensive speakers that the Paradigm "blows away" and all that other B.S. that any biased speaker manufacturer or sales rep can say to, in their mind, "objectively" defend themselves. What a bore. What a drag. What a shame. Anyway-----
Good luck with the Sashas. I hope that when you install them in your home, they will far exceed your expectations as they did and still do for me.

Audiotroy and Kuppe38
You both have no shame and, more importantly, no credibility. And neither of you read well. As I have said on numerous occasions, Audiotroy is a salesman at Audiodoctor who should be banned form trying to sell his gear on Audiogon. Period. As of a few years ago with our former moderators, that would have already happened without my input. Audiotroy is doing no one a service, especially his breathlessly hyperbolic dealer, Audio Doctor, by trolling a Wilson thread to show Wilson owners the light of what he tries to sell as a better product. It frankly doesn't matter if he truly believes it. I know and patronize many dealers who think what they sell is the best there is and have every right to do so. Imagine if one rep from every dealer trolled threads regarding products they do not sell to show everyone on that thread the light with respect to the stuff they do sell. It would destroy the forum. That's exactly what Audiotroy is doing.
 Re: the Personas. In fact, I liked them and said that I expect them to be well reviewed and a bargain at that. I liked them at the NY audio show. I have since heard them at a dealer NOT Audiodoctor-- and my opinion has not changed. They are very good, a bit hard and bright (you call transparent). But they are not world beaters. But I will say that Paradigm is a great speaker company with excellent R&D and resources who has always made great speakers for the money and should be proud of their first entry in the high end. If one thinks they are better than $100,000 Kharmas as Audiotroy once said, they are free to believe that .
   I own Wilsons but I am not a fanboy and I have owned many other brands. In fact, I thoroughly enjoy speakers from Rockport, Focal, Kef, Legacy, ATC, Harbeth, Verity, TAD  and others too numerous to mention --- all of which have many  different positive traits and all of which, on any given day, I would consider among the best speakers I have ever heard and would consider purchasing.   
 Let's check out the newly minted  Kuppe38 who says I have no integrity and that I should not slander a dealer who cares about its clients. I would never do that. I know way too many dealers who genuinely care about their clients and get much joy out of providing them with gear that provides the client with a greater insight into the music. But they don't do their selling here. My point is that we should keep dealer or manufacturer shills off this site. So far Audiotroy is one of only 4 such manufacturer dealer reps that I have consistently come across in my years here who unabashedly promotes his products. One other quit after he was hounded off (not by me) and banned by the former moderator. The other 2 are professionals who inform all on this community with their engineering intelligence and expertise and they NEVER push their own products like the ever shameless AudioDoctor crew.
 So Kuppe38, before you criticize anyone, try living on the site for a few years, get a feel for how this audio community is supposed to work and you may come to understand that it is set up for you and me and people like us --NOT DEALERS. I say this because you made your very first post to Audiogon within the past 3 weeks. Since then you have had 4 other posts all of which laud Audio Doctor and your visits there to hear the Personas and the Legacys. You also make 2 baseless statements (among others) that I want to address. First, you imply that I am gullible to believe Wilson's sales pitch wherein Dave claims to have tested various diamond, beryllium and other exotic tweeters and rejected them.
 In fact, I did not believe that but came to learn it was true. I suggest you take a tour of the Wilson factory which I have done (as I have with 3 other speaker manufacturers) where I actually saw those tweeters which Dave had in the listening room. They were all there.
Second,--get your facts straight, Vandersteen does not use beryllium drivers.  Beryllium tweeters can be wonderful or hot depending on the implementation. Some say balsa or carbon fibre or silk dome are better, but it's all matter implementation and taste.
I will say nothing more on this topic as I have wasted too much of my valuable time scolding Audiotroy for his bad form. I have no skin in this game as he and his acolyte do. I am done. You 2 may now say what you will.
Apologies to 996Cupracer for taking up space on a thread but someone has to say it. Congrats again. Enjoy your speakers and let us know what you think after they have been installed. 

   

Audiotroll
I said I was done with this thread, but your completely false summary of my objections to your postings here (and in another thread) cannot stand. I am not threatened, as you say, to anyone who prefers any speaker over Wilsons. As in all audio choices, the choice of speaker is a deeply personal one and there is no such thing as "the best". There are many times when I prefer other speakers myself.  
 Unlike you, I have never trolled a thread about a speaker brand other than Wilson and put in my unsolicited 2 cents about how the OP should consider Wilsons. If I did as a nondealer, that would be acceptable conduct here. 
Let's look at your conduct just on this thread. The OP asked about issues he had deciding between 2 Wilson models. You swoop in not only  to promote Paradigm Personas but to promote your organization and many of the brands you carry (you mention over a dozen). You also extol the talents of Dave (your boss) in having a  track record of finding high value great sounding products.You claim your dealership, unlike others, is sound loyal vs brand loyal, has years of sound experience and provides valuable insight to the members here. Right. That would be a fact for every dealer I patronize, but they don't have to say it and I don't have to read it here on Audiogon.   
 The OP purchased Wilsons on the 17th, but days later you are still here talking about me (as if I'm a problem) and Ohlala who was actually defending you. Let's see----oh yes, that means you are a troll and a shill. Now, can you just go away?


 

Audiotroll:
Can you hear sbank with your tin ear?

Once again, you misrepresent what has happened in this thread. You say that I "hijacked" the thread.
Let’s review: The OP asked a number of questions designed to assist him in deciding which Wilson speakers he should purchase for his room. I provided an answer to all of his questions based upon my actual experience with Wilson speakers and different room sizes.

You swoop in to promote the Personas as the equal of Alexias for 20K less. Not so bad IF you had not been so overbearing about the Personas at great length and in excruciating detail in another thread by saying there, in sum, that they were made of the unquestioned best drivers known to man (beryllium) and engineered with the best R&D in audio, worth multiples of their price and, indeed that the Personas bested the $100k + Kharmas you guys had in your shop.
I agree that the Personas are very good speakers, a bargain for the money but to quote you from that thread:

"I have heard $100k Rockports, $120k Kharmas and $70k plus Wilsons, $70k Vandersteens, the Persona 9H can match any of them and in many areas out perform all of these major players, I would also include $70k Magico in this mix."

NOW, having heard all of the above speakers on many occasions including the Personas, I believe you have greatly overstated your case there and here.
That, in and of itself, does not give me the right to criticize a regular member of the Audiogon community, and I would not do that. Some people maintain that the Quad esls are the best speakers ever made. I can understand and would not dispute that opinion But you represent a dealer, and one owned by a hyperventilating, hyperbolic one at that (with whom I have had a number of such encounters, the last being a number of years ago when he tried to hard sell me and others the "last and best digital player I would ever need" (the fabulous and legendary Memory Player) with the "best overall speaker on the market period "(that would be the Ushers--at least they are still in business) The 4 unrelated people in the room with me that day looked at each other in surprise and commented in the hall as to what a turn off Dave’s sales job was.

So naturally, when you invade a thread having nothing to do with the OP’s question and try once again to sell the Personas here--I have to ask--do you have access to a dictionary?
Now look up the word "hijack". Enough said on that topic.

As for me impugning your company, integrity and motivations--well, I’ll let others decide.

Hey Audiotroll: Still pitifully defending your bad conduct. As I've said before-- What a bore.  Oh yea, I like and respect Anthony Cordesman and he found the Personas to be nice speakers for the $ as I knew he would because they are. Note that his references remain Alexias and Legacys. By the way, due to your complete lack of comprehension, you fail to realize that a number of members have called you out on this thread.  
So--stop trolling, stop selling, and I'll stop hounding you.
Why don't you start your own thread on the Personas and preach to someone who cares. Maybe I'll troll that thread and steer it off course with lengthy dribble from all of my experience in testing, listening to and comparing audio components (probably considerably more than yours) so you can see how it feels. 

Audiotroll:
You want members come to my place and listen to my system, go to Audiodoctor and listen to your system and vote on which is better?  Are you insane? Guess what, nobody cares. tpreaves hit the nail on the head.
It's 996Cupracer's thread, not ours.
Once again, my apologies to him. And yes Audiotroll, I agree--we can and should both move on. But, wait--- I see you already have. Why just this morning, having tired of selling here, you've moved on to a thread where the OP asked for help for what he said had "come down to 2 choices" for a dac-- the Chord Dave or the Ayre QX5.
For those still enjoying (not) this thread, here is Audiotroll's response to that very specific question:

"I got no skin in the game but know of and have heard both of these companies fine products, both have some good strengths, we used to sell Chord and do not now sell them so we have no skin in the game nor do we sell Ayre.
There is one advantage that the Chord Dave has the Aqua Hifi Dac have that the Ayre doesn't.
The Chord is FPGA based and is easy to update, the Forumla is designed on all separate boards and Aqua has shown they can and will offer reasonably priced updates, I haven't heard the Forumla but we have the Lascala and it is excellent I haven't heard the Forumla I will say that the Lascalla is excellent. So one thing I would ask with the Ayre, is how easy would it be to upgrade?
Aside from sound quality, ease of upgrading, in the turbulent world of digital is a very good thing.
For those on the East Coast we, Audio Doctor have one of the largest collections of digital gear on display: we display: Lumin, Aurender, Mytek, Aqua, EMM Labs, Light Harmonic, Baetis, Cary Audio, T+A, Nad, Naim, Nuprime and a few others. For those who haven't heard the Light Harmonic Davinci is amazing and we have one of these rare dacs!

Troy
Audio Doctor
www.audiodoctor.com old website new one coming soon"




I ask anyone still here:
Does  Audiotroll's approach to the OP's query seem familiar?

Audiotroll:If you hijack anymore threads, you'll be placed on the no fly list with the Department of Homeland Security. As for your request to drop this back and forth here, I agree, let's stop now. It's all good. 

996cupracer:
Sorry to confront Audiotroll so harshly on your thread. I did not mean to go on so long.  It is not my style and I did not enjoy it. But I have never confronted a guy like him who just did not get how much his approach was antithetical to how this forum is designed to work for all of us. Anyway, back to your speakers. i am anxious to hear what you think when they are installed. Please let us know.

Audiotroll:
It was on the right footing.