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Got BAT VK-60 ...now what?

Recently, I bought a BAT VK-60 - which in fact, didn't even arrive, yet - but I'm already eager to persue further upgrades.
My current system is : AP Virgo, Sim Audio Moon I-5 integrated, Rega Planet CDP, Audio Analysis Silver Oval 9 speaker cable, HT ProSil mkII ICs.
Temporarily, I plan to run the I-5 as pre amp, but eventually I'd like to replace it with a 'real' pre amp. An obvious choice would be a BAT pre and I did already some research here on A'gon and Audio Asylum, but quite frankly this left me a bit confused. There are tons of different models (VK3i, VK30, VK30SE, VK5i, VK50, VK50SE...) and I simply wondered which one would be the best choice. Unfortunately, I can't afford the VK50SE (I want to stay in the 2000$ range). So, which one is better for instance? The VK30SE or the VK5i? How do they all compare to each other? I'm also entertaining the idea of getting a Pass Aleph P (incidentially, one just popped up for sale). Would this be a good match with the VK-60?
Any other suggestions would be welcome, too. Oh, and what kind of power conditioner or at least surge protector works well the VK-60 (I know BAT recommends plugging it straight into the wall)?
Thanks
pipetman
drrasta
224 posts
 
I have an all BAT system. If you're just running a cd player you can use a passive Pre into the vk-60's. I have the BAT vk5d, 5se and vk60 monos. Bypassing the 5se causes no deterioration in sound using the EVS attenuators. The vk5i has a nice midrange, but the bass is soft. Upgrading the vk5i for $2000 just isn't cost effective. You'd be better off jumping for a better cd player. My 2 bits.
s2k_dude
78 posts
 
tim, where did you hear that the 5i sounds better than the vk-30? i thought the 30 was a newer design so that kinda surprises me. does this also mean the 5ise is superior to the 30se? thanks.
sc53
689 posts
 
Hi, I have the VK30-SE and am amazed at the great sound. I don't know how it compares w/the 5i or 5iSE sonically, but functionally it has an LED read-out and volume matching between sources that I find extremely useful. I have not heard that the 5i sounds better than the newer 30 and 30SE; just the opposite, but as I said I have not done the comparison myself. I have seen VK30SE's for sale here for below $3000, which is a great price, but I guess outside your price range.
tireguy
1,964 posts
 
S2k_dude I asked this question along time ago(not even seen in the "my resent threads" section), and the majority of the people felt the 5i is a better performer then the 30, not sure about the 30se though. It has been a while and I could be mistaken but I don't believe so, my memory is not as good as it once was. I don't think you can go wrong either way! there both great products. If you plan on using an analog source the VK-30/se would be the most cost effective way to go. Judging by the coments made maybe I have things backwards, I will try to search through my threads and I will post a link to when I asked this question(I think it was close to a year ago) so you can see some other responses.
nar_com
70 posts
 
Congratulations, it's a great amp and it's a very good match for your speakers.
1. According to old discussion on audioasylum vk5i is much better than vk30 and some people prefer vk30se over vk5i and some not,especially with upgraded tubes.Run search in general asylum for 5i and 30Se and read yourself.
2.I'm sure you will be happy with either of these preamps. Whatever you choose, the limitation in your system will be your CD player.Start saving for BAT. ;-)
3.FYI, upgrade from vk5i to vk5se cost $2000.Tube rolling in the 5i is not cheap either.
4. If you are planning to buy used, then vk5i is much better deal. They go for under $2000 with remote,often even with NOS tubes. If you decide to stretch your budget to around $3,000 I would suggest to look around for a good deal(maybe demo model) on vk30SE form authorized dealer. 5 year BAT warranty is not transferable.

BTW,My rig is all BAT vkP5,vkD5se -> vk5i -> vk60 monos. Sounds great.
Good luck with your search.
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