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Component with most effect on soundstage/imaging?

Just curious... I hear lots about how this cable throws such a wide soundstage, or how that front end images so well, etc etc etc. In my experience, I have found that the amp or speakers have had the biggest impact on soundstage and imaging (speakers probably edging out in terms of greatest impact). I have found VERY little difference in cabling. Cables have had an impact on tonal characteristics (e.g. tighter bass, cleaner treble, etc.), but I really haven't heard much of a noticeable difference in soundstage or imagine. Then again, maybe my ears aren't up to it. Anyone had different experiences? Any thoughts?

The reason I am asking... I listen primarily to classical (chamber) and jazz (small ensembles and vocals), to genres where I think soundstaging and imaging are especially important. I am downgrading my system, however, and I would like to maintain these two aspects at as high a level as possible, and I am wondering which component I should focus on.

Thanks in advance, and happy listening!
ewha
tireguy
1,964 posts
 
I would have to assume room/speakers would have more to do with imaging/soundstage then anything else. I have had a super cheap digital front end(long ago) in my system at a period of time and it still imaged, not as well but it did. I would agree that the amp or preamp would be the next most important, I would lean toward the amp, from what I have experienced. Good day,
Tim
nilthepill
842 posts
 
I believe that assuming your speakers are properly positioned, away from front and back wall, pre-amp is highly responsible to define sound stage. Different cable effect sound stage by varying tonal balance (too forward or laid back) resulting in chnaged sound stage.
gunbei
2,327 posts
 
Hi Eric, how have you been?

Actually, I've had two instances when cables did make a difference. First, was when I swapped out a pair of biwired DH Labs Silversonic T14s for a biwired pair of Analysis Plus Oval 9s. The APs were much fuller and more natural sounding. The Oval 9s have since remained in my system.

The second instance just happened last week. I replaced three Absolute Power Cords with three Virtual Dynamics Power 2 cords. Vaavoooooooom!!!! I am still in awe of the difference. Soundstaging has opened up immensely, both in width and depth. Music is more dynamic AND smoother. I have never experienced this combination before. And overall volume has seemed to increase. I can't explain that one.

As for components making a difference in soundstaging? When I changed my Sonus Faber Concertinos for ProAc Tablette 50 Signatures, the first thing I noticed was the contrast in overall imaging and soundstage presentation of the two speakers. The Concertinos had a nice, warm sound, but the Tab 50s exhibited a much larger and more precise soundstage, while retaining much of that warmth. So for me it definitely has to be speakers.

Eric, thanks for recommending Rick's cables to me. I'm thinking of possibly doing the entire Audition cable package swap.

Good luck.
whatjd
615 posts
 
Well, this is not a direct answer to the question..but the room and it's noise level is my choice.

Room size shape and acoustic properties, followed by the noise level both inside and outside of the home..have major impact on what you hear, esp. low level detail and decay that give much of the sence of space/image.
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