Which is better Arcam 85 or Creek 5350Se

I replaced my Creek 5350SE with an LFD MIstral LE integrated much more open sound with superior transparency etc..

What's with all the typo's in the above posts? Thought I
was the only one that couldn't spel?

Used to play darts at a bar with friends....and we always
called it the "beer to darts ratio"!

I, also, have heard good things about both integrateds, for
the price. I have also heard about and heard the new Ayre
integrated...and although a grand more, very much a grand
integrated.

I had both in home with Tyler Reference Monitors and the 85 tore up the Stereofool Class A Creek. Later I used the pre only on some active speakers and was impressed. Today I used a Plinius CD-LAD 3k pre on the actives and preferred the pre section of the 85. The 85 has so many features that are not even talked about at Arcams web site or any reviews.
I also preferred the 85 to my previous Electrocompaniet ECI-4 3k. Add a P-85 and you are set for life. This is without question the best Integrated I have heard, and I also preferred over the Levison 383.

From the various responses, the conclusion as always is to demo them, and decide for yourself which one you like better. You have narrowed it down to two. These forums are good for getting suggestions. We have probably gotten you as far as we can.

I guess I'm a little late here, but just for the sake of anyone else looking at these posts: I also would like to hear the Creek, I currently own a Bryston B60. I like the B60 and have tweaked it with high-end ICs to replace the stock jumpers, and a JPS Labs power cord, and that improved it for sure, but still would like to hear the Creek. THE ONE CONSIDERATION that holds me up is the utterly lousy warranty with the Creek -- is it 90 days or 2 years? Either way it's lousy. Any manuf. with pretensions to hi-end should be willing to stand behind their product with a DECENT warranty of at least 5 to 10 years, and I love Bryston for the 20 year warranty. But the Creek is British made and lord even knows who in the U.S. could repair it .... !!