Thiel CS1.5 and properly sized Aragon amp


Hey. I'm in the market to upgrade the amp for my Thiel CS1.5s. I've decided to give Aragon a try since it's a good used value (this is my auditioning). Does anyone think I need the 4004MkII or should the 2004MkII be enough power? The cost difference is irrelevant, it's strictly a matter of whether the 2004 provides enough power. I've seen people using the 4004 with the CS2 series and the 8008 with the CS3 series but I'm not conviced that the 2002 is enough for the CS1 series. I will be using Goertz MI2 and MIT 750HE cabling. I'm replacing an Adcom GFA-7000. Thanks! leo.
leoturetsky
Years ago I tried a 2004 with my Thiel CS3 speakers for a few weeks, it drove them easily, although I wound up returning the Aragon to my dealer and getting a Krell KSA 50 Mk II because I didn't like the Aragon's softness on top compared to the Krell, which was cleaner, more extended and yet still sweet-sounding. Aragon amps were at least a partial Krell design, I think the 2004 should have more than enough power for your needs unless you drive the speakers really loud.
With a good amp, I think the ammount of power is less an issue. I'm not sure how much power you think you need for your system. Lower power does not mean 'poor sound quality' and by the same logic, more power doesn't mean 'better sound.'

I owned an Aragon 8008st and found it to be a very good sounding amp. I replaced it with an amp that was the same 'on paper' but the sound quality was vastly superior. I bought a Krell FPB 200. Both amps are rated at 400wpc into 4 ohms, but the Krell is hands-down better!

BUT in your situation there are some issues that must be resolved. How hard do you drive your gear? What kind of music are you listening predominately?

In my opinion, buy the 4004, or if you can swing it get the 8008. The reserve power of the bigger amps will allow your speakers to reproduce those sudden attacks in the music that a lesser powered amp will not have available. Unless you are only listening to old presidential speaches you will appreciate the power reserves.

I hope I did not ramble too much. Sometimes thoughts are not expressed as clearly as one would intend.

Good luck, Aragon makes nice amps, and the 4004 should be a nice upgrade from the Adcom.
While I think the Aragon will be an nice upgrade from the Adcom, I wonder if you could do better. Rcprince are you sure Aragon were a partial Krell design? I would have thought an Aragon would have had more in common with Mark Levinson.
Rcprince, Krell's KSA-100 is on my list. However it's a bit out of my price range for the time being. I would also like to try some in-between amps (better than Adcom, not as good as Krell) so I can gauge how much of an effect the change makes.

Nrchy, I believe my problem is a lack of power to the speakers. I installed dedicated lines a few weeks ago and the improvement was startling to say the least. Hence I want to try an amp that double downs as Thiel recommends. My Adcom sounds like it's straining (sounds hard, bright, and compressed) to provide enough power and so I'm thinking it's probably both a quality and size issue. I realize the Aragon is a better design but I'm also wondering if the power is enough from the 2004. I mostly listen to female rock/alternative vocals, classic rock, and reggae and I listen fairly loudly as I have no neighbors. :-) These are also my home theater speakers.

Thanks!