Reference DACS: An overall perspective


There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
teajay
Branimir, very nice summary. I am reading in to your description of Metronome sound being bigger and fuller as being closer to lifelike bigness of sound as it is apparent in live jazz band. It is curious that you single out this description to Metronome sound and not others. Is Esoteric, AA and Orpheus have same big 'density' sound as compared to Metronome?

I personally value bigness and fuller sound since it move a lot of air and hence approaches life-like sound.

Also I will be curious to know if you have auditioned and compared these DACs sound to a well set up analog front end. Or if you have your own analog set up and compared to the best of the digital sound. Not to necessarily compare which one is better but the key differences that stands out. This is not a anlog v/s digital question or trying to hijack Teajay's excellent thread but to get a feel for what the best in digiatl has to offer in comaprision to best in analog. I hope Teajay does not mind this comparision.
Nilthepill,
Metronome combo is always sounding big and full, with all kinds of music. This feature is not always a welcome thing, with rock music for example(some rock recordings are pump up anyway!). IMHO this Metronome's sonic signature is also its biggest problem because not all recording are welcoming such a presentation.
Esoteric, Orpheus and AA are little bit more neutral IMHO overall.
More on Orpheus Labs Heritage dac is here:

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/orpheus/heritage.html

It is long and pretty messy review, but I urge you to read it anyway.

Metronome is maybe most "musicall" of all this combos, specially with Jazz and Classical music. Overall neutral champs it is not...

Analogue front end... I have one ten years ago(SME30), but since I gave it up I do not plane to return!
BTW, my best friend owns very good analogue front end(Brinkmann) and in his opinion some of digital gear that he audition in my house betters his Brinkmann by some margin. In all honesty I must say that the rest of his system is not in the same league as my systems...
Branimir, With all of this very good, very expensive gear how is your relatively inexpensive cd7 holding up. What are its strengths and where does it fail to match up ? Thanks - Jim
Hi Guys,
I've been traveling this weekend, found this thread and wanted to make a few comments of the Metronome Kalista specifically and also the C2A DAC.

Most, if not all reviews, have described the Kalista of being quite accurate in tonality, resolution, dynamics and in projecting what soundstage is on the disk. If it is a large band, then the sound is large. If it's a small acoustic performance, a similar image is projected. Obviously, different speakers can project different sized images.

In a related vein, the Met Kalista/C2A has been compared to reference level turntables...it's that great!

This has been my experinence with the Kalista and also with the other Metronome odels since they all use a similat modified CDM12Pro2 transport. And the difference between the Kalista and others designs is significant.

btw, watch for a new review this week of the "entry" Metronome CD3-Signature in Tone Audio.

Thanks, guys!

Jim Ricketts/tmh audio
jim@tmhaudio.com
Jim,
ARC Reference CD7 is wonderfull player. It is only short in overall detail level and soundstage size comparing to three reference combos from Esoteric, Metronome and Orpheus Lab. Differences, specially is soundstage size are not that dramatic, but it is not as wide as Metronomes for example or its depth is not hall like as Orpheus Lab. For tube cd player CD7 has excellent bass power and definition and is also pretty big sounding. As a matter of fact it is IMHO overall value champ.
Just a warning-it is very warm running player. Placement on top shelf of rack is a MUST! Also do not use it with too warm sounding cables-you will get too much of "warmth".