Tube Equipment: Gimmick?

I think people who are offended by vulgar language are just thin skinned. Either way, i guess you have every right to be offended.

I think i gained a new insight to your position on why people who dont agree with you are "Lesser people" cause the way you talk you sure seem to have elevated yourself to the pinnacle of existance where non other is your equal.

I think ill stay down here in my shallow existance of vulgar debauchery and drink a couple beers and work on cars with my buddy Marco while we "Enjoy" solid state gear.

Too bad you are so elevated that you cannot appreciate not only the finer things in life, but the lesser ones as well eh?

Hey marco, if yer ever in the denver area, get ahold of me dude.

Tubes su** the big one!
They look like glowing phalluses and I think that is the biggest attraction! I don’t know about you but I don’t need no stinking glowing phallus sticken out of my amp!
Especially the whimpering SET crowd, the biggest bunch of tin-eared, Viagra popping losers on the planet since we had the Julian-Hirsh inspired "objective" audio craze of the 70's... If they aren't deaf their damn good actors! WHY do they insist that since this is all THEIR feeble minds can grasp in audio, that everyone else who disagrees with them is an idiot. Frickin wankers like Hiroyasu Kondo and the rest of the post-modern feudal militants. First we are overrun with their stinken Hondas and now this.

Good day,
I remain

That's hilarious KT88...."Annoying and Refreshing"!! Well, I don't think I'll be selling any widgets or consumables with that logo. Chew Doublemint Gum for an Annoying and Refreshing break from your day! I'm glad at least you find some redeaming virtue to them.

Hey, no worries on my part, and I completely understand that you are offended by my language. I really just use it for humor and emphasis. Some folks actually find it amusing. Some, like yourself, do object to it. My wife finds it rather crass and offensive too...........so I get it, and no, I am not offended nor annoyed that it offends you, and am glad that you speak up about it. It's funny, but I don't speak that way at all, or even remotely like that. I do like to write that way....it is another side of me I guess a repressed side. I really ought to get some analasys for this! I sure think it provides some comic relief from some otherwise stone-serious threads about the importance of the Emperors New System.

I do have this to say about your comparison of this infringement of your personal rules of etiquette (cultivated and refined by, no doubt, wisdom beyond my grasp), to smoking a cigarette in public: There is a world of difference. With a cigarette you'd have the choice to breath in the smoke, or leave the room, and presumably not have the same access to what should be a public place. Here it is completely YOUR choice to click on my post and read it. You may adjust your expecations accordingly, as you might with any other member of this forum to either read my posts, which frequently cross over lines you may find offensive, or skip over them altogether if you are offended by them. Though they may push the boundries of forum guidelines, I think the posts are ultimately utterly benign and only serve to emphasize a point and or bring a smile to some, but certainly NOT to everyone. I also humbly think that there is an underlying message to many of my posts that may have some value to some, and some of my posts are just as grey and dismally to the point many others I read here. But if you want one more of those audiophiles in a grey flannel suit and tie that looks and writes the same as 87% of the rest of them .....look elsewhere. Do not read my posts. They are clearly identified with my user ID "jax2". It's really that simple. I take no offense that you don't appreciate my writing, and I'm sure you are not alone. There are many members here who's posts I avoid for one reason or another. If I don't know someone, and start reading a post, and something rubs me the wrong way about it, I doubt very much I'd take the time to read it, much less to look at other posts by the same person.

Peace back atcha' Kt88!

Marco

Clueless - I am deeply offended by your remarks. Yet I'm curiously refreshed as well. In fact, I'm getting a tingling in my loins reading it over again, and yet again! Could you expand on the "glowing phallus" part?!

Marco

The fact is this.

Ive heard good tube setups. And i enjoyed them very much.

I still like solid state better.

That does not make me wrong, but what IS a rather pompous and arrogant statement is to say that "tubes sound better than solid state gear" and to boast that as a fact.

Tube gear suffers horribly from distortion. It is a pleasing distortion and can be a rather beneficial distortion, but im pretty sure that when Alicia Keys was playing the piano, that the piano did not send out a 2nd order harmonic distortion.

Distortion is distortion.

It does not take a genious to realize that if you look at the wave entering the Tube amp, and the wave LEAVING the tube amp, that the wave IS altered, and THUS, NOT the origional sound of the recording.

Solid state is more accurate, this is a proven fact. SS does not need any pixies and fairy dust to explain this fact, it does however have mathematical proof and the tests show it as well.

When Diana Krall is in yer living room singing, she is not introducing any 2nd order harmonic distortion either.

the tube amp does. Plain, simple, fact. Distortion is distortion folks.

Now im not bashing tubes, i think they sound great, and one day i will probably have a set of tube monoblocks just so i can mix things up from time to time.

Buying all this gear is about listening to music on your own terms. Some are purists who want perfect linear responce and frown on tone controls, some want to have the ability to change various aspects of the music to suit to thier tastes as well.

To me, to MY ears, Solid State Amplifiers sound great. Sure, there are some that suck, just like there are some tubes that suck, but im talking about MY enjoyment. My preference.
I prefer solid state. plain, simple, and i am correct. Tubes just dont really do it for me. I like the accuracy of solid state.

To state that preference has nothing to do about it, that it is all experience, well, maybe you need some more experience of your own. Such a definitive statement is about as idiodic as they get.

If you prefer Tubes and thier Distortion, then that is fine with me. Sit back, have your favorite drink, relax, and listen to YOUR music on YOUR terms and have fun.

I will be at home, doing the same, listening to my music on MY terms and enjoying it every bit as much as you.

And i can listen to solid state indefinatly and i dont get irratated by it. Maybe if solid state hurts your ears that much, you should consult a physician and see about making sure your ears are not going the way of the dodo.

Just dont sit there with a holier-than-thou attitude and tell me that my taste and my preference is wrong. Because when you say that, then I am right, and YOU are wrong.