Negative feedback, voltage and output impedance


Hi,

Can someone please explain the correlation between the above in a tube amp?

Since voltage output and output impedance are not commonly listed specs, how does one determine whether one amp or another is better in these areas?

TIA.

Mike
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The difference between Atmasphere and McIntosh is that Atmasphere wants to make its product more marketable spreading a gossip that less feedback is always better.
Zero negative feedback on my amp also sounded the best, hands down. Increasing the feedback seemed to constrict the sound, decrease it's palpable quality.
All,

Thanks for the replies.

If I understand this correctly, if I want to buy a high power (voltage for ESLs) tube amp with low output impedance and low or no negative feedback, then I need to look at OTLs, correct?

Thanks.

Mike
The term "negative" is unfortunate. It really should be called "corrective" feedback. It corrects various forms of distortion and frequency response deficiencies, but if used to excess can introduce its own problems.

The amount of feedback is always user adjustable, if the user has a soldering iron. I went through a stage of feedback tweeking, but eventually decided that the designer always got it about right. Why would he do otherwise?

Among tubophiles there is a tendancy to conveniently forget the significant feedback provided by the ultralinear windings of the output transformer which are applied directly to output tube auxillary grids.
Hi Marakanetz,

Just FWIW, as a manufacturer I have to be careful what I say as this forum is moderated. At the same time what I am expressing is actually the way I see it and that has served me pretty good so far for the first 26 years or so anyway :)

I hope you don't consider it a sin that I try to walk what I talk. OTOH, our early amps for the early 80s did use feedback, so its not as if I've not given it a fair shake. Every now and then we re-try some of the stuff we abandoned, just to see if we are still on target. FWIW, amps without feedback are harder to set up as you have to be more careful about the speaker choice. This means our market is probably a bit more limited. As a result it doesn't take the ability to download and chew gum at the same time to figure out that I'm not in it for the money...

Another difference between us and Mac is that our warranty is transferable and we will reactive that warranty on any product that we have fully updated.