Neuance or Z Slab shelf for Zoethecus rack???

Misskuma,
Can you be a little specific about the custom fitted inside the Zoethecus frame? Thx.

of Zoethecus.
Have ken make his shelf in exact same size as existing Z-slabs and
simply replace Z-slabs with those. I still use four corner *puck* thingy
underneath, tho.

I agree about avoiding using cones etc. If your Neuance shelf is sitting on a rigid welded steel rack, and you support the shelf on upturned spikes, then there is no real need for fancy footers and most will just impart their own sound as you say Misskuma. I still find the upturned spikes under the new Neuance shelves to be beneficial. I know Ken is trying to meet a customer need to have a less industrial look, and so is trying to avoid the rack and spikes being so important, but if you can, I urge you to try upturned spikes under the shelf. The last AB I did with (what I think is) his latest shelf, between using vinyl bumpers and using spikes was a no contest in favour of the spikes.

*but if you can, I urge you to try upturned spikes under the shelf*

And I did. And the benefit was not big enough for me to put up with
instability. Some of my components weigh under 10 lb with 20lb cables
attached to it. ( you get the idea )

At any rate, his new shelves are just as fine to be used as a stand-alone.

Or, perhaps, I can't hear that well. :-)

Ken claims the newer Neuances are 3dB quieter in addition to not needing upturned spikes. We'll see....