McIntosh - is it that great?


I'm just curious if McIntosh gear is all that great. How does their older power amps compare to new products from other high end manufactures? Are there any products I should stay away from. I like the idea of owning vintage McIntosh stuff. Most of their stuff seems pricy. Is it because it's that good or do people just like to collect their products. thanks for you opinions--Matt
mattman
It depends on speakers, pre-amps, and cabling. The Mac 602 bettered the ARC Ref 300 MK2's on the mid-tweet panels on my Genesis 2's, but when I bought Wilson MAX2,s the Mac didn't work well at all. Now it's back to ARC tubes and all is nirvana again.
Nice to see this much opinions on amplification...I have owned from Rotel to Primare, Pathos, Krell and Sugden Class A. Never I was entirely satisfied untill I heard MC 352. Still wondering if another preamp ( I have now a C40) could better it...
Rgrds
I question whether this post will make it here, and I'm no krell basher at all, but I read the comments about McIntosh Gear being considerably overpriced, but yet rarely ever read a comment about krell, or Levinson gear being overpriced.

Usually I note that many krell owners spring $9K, $12K, and up, but something like a 600, 650, 750 Amp, and in four months, the Amp is back at Krell getting some "latest greatest" improvement/upgrade.

I realize that perhaps some in the hobby have more money than sense when they buy ultra-expensive gear, and maybe go out, and buy $75K worth of gear just like they'll go out and buy a $70K BMW, as a "status symbol", but, I don't clearly understand the reasoning behind these owners quickly sending the gear back for some mod? If the equipment is so good (which it probably no doubt is) whay are many of these Krell owners so compelled to rush this gear back to improve it? At it's cost, is should be able to stand on its own laurels, without needed some hot mod/update every few months? My reasoning is they "hopefully" bought the gear because they liked the sound. Evidently a few months later some must be coming to conclusions that thier sound is NOT satisfying them? Mark
I have listened to Mac gear for almost all of my 54 years on the planet and I couldn't imagine life without a piece of McIntosh gear somewhere in the house.

When asked about my idea of a "dream system" I reply that I really want four: A big Genesis/IRS type system for large scale orchestral music in a great sounding room big enough to support it all, a tube/Quad system for gentle chamber and acoustic folk music in another good sounding, but smaller room, old KLH model 21's everywhere in the house for background music and in the party room: a Mac C-20, an MR-71, a pair of MC 240's in mono and a pair of Altec 604E's. I own that last system, and while it is not as accurate as my "big rig reference" (SOTA, Theta, cj, Bryston, Infinity RS2B's) system, everytime I fire it up it makes music and lots of it, the kind that makes me smile and very sorry I have to turn it off to go to bed or work. It's a fun system to listen to.

If I was limited to owning and listening to just one system for the rest of my life, I'd probably pick my old Mac gear, because it's proven itself to be extremely musical, enjoyable and reliable over the long haul (and you've got to agree that forty years with many more to come is a very long haul).
Nice reply Decibelcat...that was fun to read and almost gave me the upgrade bug but I fought it off!