avantgarde uno & duo

I do agree that Avantgardes if not properly set up will not preform to it's fullest. I think it would be safe to say "that all goes for any speaker". That being said, it would be very sad to say that those trios that I've heard was not properly setup or maybe they were, who knows--it was not my listening room. All I can remmeber is that the fellow who had them had an easy 150k of gears in that room. If you guys claim that my bad experience with AV was due to bad setup--then I would really like to hear them in a listening room with the right gears. I travel a lot and I will be in the Jersey, New York city area a week from now. Is there any dealers of Avantgardes in that area where I can have a listening session. Maybe my feelings for these speakers will change after all. Unless they are not properly setup again.

Rhapsody Audio in NYC is a dealer. They also carry Joseph Audio speakers. Very different sounding from the Avantgard's but still state of the art.

How can two speakers ... essentially state of the art, each trying to capture "perfect sound", each designed with real live music in mind, with the same standard to try and replicate ... sound so damn different?

Enjoy,
Bob

How can two speakers ... essentially state of the art, each trying to capture "perfect sound", each designed with real live music in mind, with the same standard to try and replicate ... sound so damn different?

Bob, I believe you've just summed up this hobby with one simple question.

I have never owned the Unos, but I once owned the Duos and Trios. I don't look back with much favor on my experience with them. I could never get the Duos positioned properly as the woofers are part of the frame. I thought the bass with them was frankly terrible. The Trios did allow me to position the horns and the woofers separately, and as a result I got much better bass with them. A friend with Trios went so far as to use another amp on the woofers. His sound much better than I could ever get using the cheap Avanteguard amps.

I always thought also that not using compression drivers shortchanged the performance of these speakers as they were not very fast sounding. I thought the top end was not very extended. Finally, I thought the great displacement of the drivers relative to each other meant that one would have to be quite far from them to get very integrated sound, perhaps 20 feet from them.

As your amp does not have to cover anything below 150 Hz, they are easy to drive.

I bought Beauhorn Virtuosos and was much more satisfied.

Thanks for your post TBG. At least I know I was not the only one who thinks that Avantgardes are not doing what others claim they can do. Just to clarify things, my opinion is just that--My Opinion.