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Need advice for full range speaker with bottom end

Hi,

My current set up is Innersound Eros MKI with
Antique Sound Lab 1006 845 amp and cary slp98 pre. Altogether a pretty satisfying setup for beautify mids and highs.

I do notice and miss the bottom end on some music. So I'm interested in setting up a second system with some of the other parts I've already have lying around. I have a pair of Nuforce 8's and a Benchmark Dac. Given the Benchmark has volume control, I figure I can skip the preamp and go with just adding a pair of speakers. I will source this system with my computer and the Squeezbox 3 to the DAC.

I'm hoping to find a pair of full range speaker that can give me what I'm missing and still resemble some of the mids and highs I get out of my innersound panels.

My hope is to keep things sane within the $2-4K range...hopefully closer to 2k than 4K. I plan to be buying use to keep cost down.

Anyone know of some good bargins for full range speakers that can hit close to 20hz?

Gerald

geraldedison
geraldedison OP
36 posts
 
Chadnliz,

Do you feel my combo of 25W SET amp and Nuforce ref 8 would be up to the task to drive a VMP speaker? I see a pair of VM40 on Audiogon today. Don't know if you think that would be a worthy model to try. It weights 200lbs each and that's somewhat intimidating (how will I ever lug that up to my second floor music room?!)

Do you use tube amp to drive your VMP speaker? You listening to the VM30 model, is there significant difference with a VM40?

Gerald
chadnliz
3,736 posts
 
I would call Brian at VMPS, he answers the phone most of the time, I own the FF3 SRE wich was a special edition, it has a 48in midrange panel but the RM40 has a better midrange now then I have so they should be better, I power mine with 400 watts from both amps and I dont want to speculate and stear you wrong.
By the way my speakers way over 300lbs each but on a 2 wheel "dolly" they are a breeze to moove, and they are tall and pretty narrow, moving them a bit here and there is alot easier then you think...1 guy in good shape can do it easily, atleast mine you can.......and yours weigh over 100lbs less.
Over at Audioasylum there is an entire VMPS club you can ask questions and dig for much more info then will usually be found in these parts. My gut tells me you can use what you have but will the tubes give you loud levels, that is what I dont know.
geraldedison OP
36 posts
 
Chadnliz,

Thanks for info. After a day more of research, I still can't decide between the VR4 Jr and the VM40. The VR4 is cheaper and shipping won't be a challenge. From my research I'm getting the impression that the bass on the VR4 is going to be faster and more authoratative (this is just my interpetations of peoples descriptions).

Lilkewise, I gather the impression that the VM40 will have the details, highs and mids that I've been use to with probably pretty satisfying bass as well although that may not be the VMP's strongest point.

Due to the weight and packing and shipping requirements for the VM40, if I was to buy it today. I'm guessing the cost difference between the VM40 and the VR4 Jr will end up being $3500 vs $2500 with the VM40 being the more expensive.

That is a relavant difference...would you say the VMP is worth the $1K difference?

Gerald
tvad
9,467 posts
 
Unless you listen at low volume, I'm dubious of your 25 SET's ability to drive the midrange and tweeter section of the VR4 Jr since the Jr speakers have a 4 ohm impedance from 150Hz - 20Hz.

If you can, I'd suggest taking your amp to a local VS dealer and listening to the combination before you buy. Otherwise, buy used VR4 Jr so you don't take a beating if you decide to sell.
geraldedison OP
36 posts
 
Tvad,

I appreciate your advice on checking out the 25w Set amp. I am questionable on that too. Although, one VS dealer demo the vr4 jr with a 30wpc Thor tube amp.

I am looking at the VMP RM40 and the VR4 Jr on Audiogon at this point. It's a tough choice and I don't feel there's really a bad decision I can make at this point. Both have really won a following... Although, the RM40 seems to have more to offer, but it's going to be about $1000 more.

Gerald
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