most accurate loudspeakers....


Many of you are correct, it is personal choice and your own ears. Now that being said ,I do agree with Stevecham in that Thiels are incredibly accurate and one of the best
loudspeakers I ever heard was a Thiel CS 7.2 ...to my ears that is.
timmo812
Another way to ask the quesion is, which speaker reproduces the analog signal with the least amount of change? How would you know?? It's all relative isn't it? If you listen to two speakers on the same system, you may think that one of the speakers produces a voice more "accurately" but, how would you know?????
It's easy to define accuracy, hard (impossible) to achieve. Compare the waveform going in to the waveform coming out. The closer the output is to the input, the more accurate the speaker.

Many factors are involved in accuracy. All forms of distortion, harmonic, intermodulation, linear, phase, time. Not all forms of distortion are equally audible or important from a psychoacoustic standpoint. Other factors include, the stored energy of the drivers, the cabinet resonances, refraction, and interference patterns.

Room variations and anomolies must be eliminated for a true measurement. But, of course, the room comes into play for the user. This brings up another factor, power response. How does the speaker 'light up' the room, and how well does the ambient sound field correspond to the direct sound? Speakers can measure very well on axis, and create a miserable sound field that colors everything.

These factors also need to be prioritized. Suggested priority:

1) Linear response
2) Harmonic and IM distortion
3) Stored energy
4) Power response
5) Phase and time
In my opinion the goal is to recreate as closely as possible the illusion of a live performance, and this implies taking psychoacoustics into account. Just because something can be easily measured doesn't mean it's relevant. If low-order harmonic distortion is inaudible, then an impressive-looking measurement in that area is irrevelant.

To give a more common example, as long as we measure the on-axis anechoic response but listen to the power response, there will be a disconnect between frequency response measurements and subjective perception.

Following this line of thought, the most accurate loudspeaker is the one that comes the closest to reproducing the perception of a live performance. We don't presently have a metric that accurately predicts subjective preference - indeed, the audio industry has thus far resisted the adoption of such a metric presumably because there would be far more losers than winners among manufacturers. What we'd need is a psychoacoustically-weighted metric that takes into account the relative audible significance of everything the device does to the signal (the "transfer function).

Of course I have my opinion as to which characteristics are likely to result in a speaker that closely approximates the perception of a live performance, and frankly some of these characteristics are unlikely to show up in published measurements. Among these obscure characteristics that I think matter are dynamic linearity (lack of power compression or at least uniform power compression across the frequency range) and radiation pattern smoothness (related to but not the same thing as power response).

I don't know of any speaker that really "does it all", but my personal leanings are generally towards planars and horns rather than direct-radiator dynamics - even though the latter are more likely to produce impressive-looking conventional measurements.

Duke
dealer/manufacturer
Reference 3A is the most pure by far ,if you know what a real instrument sounds like then one listen and you
will know. The critical Midwoofer driver is completely made by hand in house the tweeter is far better then the stock ring radiators out there If your electronics are not bleached out like Naim for instance than go out of your way
to locate a dealer .
no speaker is accurate, period. most speakers state their frequency response within 3 db. that is not accurate.

at best one can a speaker is less inaccurate than another.

a speaker is either accurate or it isn't. it can't be incredibly accurate. it can't be slight;ly accurate. it is not accurate and not perfect.

there is no way to assess a speaker's accuracy. there does not exist a definition of accurate nor a way to objectively measure or calculate an inaccuracy score.

since we are expressing opinions, i would say the quad 57 is the least inaccurate of all speakers, within its range.

the thiel speakers sound top heavy, i.e., peaky in the upper midrange/lower treble.