Apogee vs Soundlab


Which speaker is better: Apogee or Soundlab and why? Which is superior technically speaking: fullrange ribbon or fullrange electrostatic speaker and why?
Disclaimer: It is not my intention to start a fullrange ribbon vs fullrange electrostatic war. I just want to hear your opinions.

Chris
dazzdax
Jafox

Apogee had well over 20 models...I've only owned three, and heard five. Right now I own Duetta Signatures, and a pair of MiniGrands.

The Duetta was the largest 2-way. The bass panel must share some of the midrange reproduction, with the tweeter ribbon. The blend is very good...but somewhat darker sounding.

The larger Apogees are all 3-way designs, with dedicated midrange ribbons....a good step up.

I've yet to hear any of the Apogees that sound alike (house sound)...they have all sounded very good though...and of course dipole.

I think, the differences in sound, are related to the many different ribbon designs Apogee used, in the varies models?

Dave
Jafox:

There was nothingw rong with teh VTL but nor was there anything special. Mien was VTL 750 (the one with higher quality caps). Most tube amps in their bigger version lose their magic or some other quality. The VTL 750 lacks air and does not have well articulated bass. of course it is all relative, so I am comparing with the Jadis 500, Audio Valve or Lamms. The TRL GT-400 is in a higher league than all of these.

I have not listened to the Siegfried so I cannot say. By the way, I do not pay any attention to reviews in audio magazines ro their class A/B/C rating or other rubbish which is mostly market manipulation to ensure the adds keep coming.

So if you are in market for a new amp, listen to a few amps yourself and then decide which one you like, Sigefried inclusive.
Dave, the Apogee Grands is an active speaker system, isn't it? With tons of very complicated cross over electronics and should be biamped also. Well, that would be to much hassle for me. A Diva will do, but the price for a 19 year old pair of Diva's is ridiculous high! So I'm sticking with Soundlab, heheh.

Chris
The Grand is a fully active 4 way system. It needs 8 channels of amplification, 4 are build into the speaker. 2 Monos for the Subwoofer and 2 Monos for the Tweeter (all 4 are Krell KAS) with external power supply. Onboard displays and computers allows to set "presets", individual driver level, rake and phase adjustment, volume and diagnostic.

I own a pair myself and currently have another pair that i can offer.

PS: I owned Scintillas, DIVAS, Caliper and Stage